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CrestonM 
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 Topic: B steering gearbox-Ross vs Gemmer?
Posted: 20 hours 39 minutes ago at 1:19pm |
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Which gearbox is preferred? My B has a Ross and it turns hard. Jack the front end up and you can turn the wheel with one finger, so I know it’s not in the king pins. I drove a different B and it was night and day different, so easy to steer. I didn’t pay attention to what box it had. Does one brand tend to steer easier than the other?
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 20 hours 30 minutes ago at 1:28pm |
i think the Gemer has 3 teeth inside compared to the Ross that has One tooth or "pin"...I have several tractors and everyone has the Ross.. I think it was way more common and probably cheaper...
Nothing wrong with the ROSS if it is built up right. Normally the pin wears and you get excessive slop.. you can turn the steering wheel 30 degrees and no movement of the tires.. the PIN is worn out... I have never had one DRAG as you said.. Normally that is in the king pins / bushings / drag link area...
Edited by steve(ill) - 20 hours 25 minutes ago at 1:33pm
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 20 hours 29 minutes ago at 1:29pm |
here are Dicks pictures of the ROSS...
and the GEMER
https://public.fotki.com/DickL/allis_chalmers_engi/allis-chalmers-c-ge/
Edited by steve(ill) - 20 hours 28 minutes ago at 1:30pm
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Posted: 20 hours 27 minutes ago at 1:31pm |
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted: 16 hours 43 minutes ago at 5:15pm |
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Not speaking from specific experience with those gearboxes, so take this with a grain of salt, but you could have something worn anywhere in the steering linkage, or even the king pins, and when you have the weight of the tractor on it and then try to steer with the extra force it requires (vs. up in the air with no weight on the front wheels), it puts something slightly in a bind. Could be in the gearbox or anything else, perhaps?
Edited by wjohn - 16 hours 42 minutes ago at 5:16pm
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Posted: 1 hour 35 minutes ago at 8:23am |
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I would be looking at the bottom of the king pin / bushing area... Some binding when you put the weight on it .... not much to go wrong with the arms, and the gear box is normally SLOP, not binding under load.
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