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Thad in AR. 
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Posted: 18 hours 13 minutes ago at 3:29am |
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I’m getting close to having my old truck project ready for paint.
I have the door jambs and inner side of the doors stripped to bare meta.
Is there a rattle can primer suitable for these ?
I plan to use epoxy primer on the exterior.
A lot of the exterior will be to bare metal as well
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Dirt Farmer
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Posted: 17 hours 20 minutes ago at 4:22am |
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Crazy as it sounds and against the orange bleeding folks here, I really like the John Deere primer, it goes on smooth and comes in rattle can, quart or gallon. Im not a professional painter by no means but I restored a wd45 a couple years ago and thats what I used and its held up very well. It is also very reasonably priced when compared to automotive primers.
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Posted: 14 hours 52 minutes ago at 6:50am |
John Deere's paint is (or at least used to be) Valspar, the same as AGCO paint.
I always heard that, on bare metal, you should use a metal etch prior to painting or a self-etching primer.
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Thad in AR.
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Posted: 13 hours 21 minutes ago at 8:21am |
 WF owner wrote:
John Deere's paint is (or at least used to be) Valspar, the same as AGCO paint.
I always heard that, on bare metal, you should use a metal etch prior to painting or a self-etching primer. |
I am considering rustoleum Self etching primer. Was told it works well on another website for car guys. Hoping for advice from the guys in this group. I trust them the most.
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Posted: 11 hours 49 minutes ago at 9:53am |
Use the SAME epoxy primer for the ENTIRE truck ! That way it's 100% the same, no chance of 'incompatabilty ' problems. Easy to tarp off the interior and windshield areas for priming the doors and jambs. Be sure to clean the gun out as SOON as you're finished ! Do NOT answer the phone clean the gun out !!!!
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Posted: 5 hours 9 minutes ago at 4:33pm |
Unless have a Sensitive Heart to pressure, Price CAREFULLY, Rustoleum is OK for Garden Furniture and outdoors metal displays, Not So Hot for AUTO work as most auto paints will lift with that as a base.
Epoxy Primer being Petro Based will run in excess of Hundreds per QUART, hardener and activator are Separate. Unless have a Booth for real paint, where auto shops these days use Water Suspended Auto Paints, check with anyone in the business before taking anyone else's word. Major malfunction is if intend to prime and allow to sit awhile, like days to weeks, will have to prep sand and reclean to apply any paints, my epoxy primers used on the Ford and KW were under 14-18 hours untouched after spraying could liberally apply paint.
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Posted: 4 hours 5 minutes ago at 5:37pm |
DMiller wrote:
Unless have a Sensitive Heart to pressure, Price CAREFULLY, Rustoleum is OK for Garden Furniture and outdoors metal displays, Not So Hot for AUTO work as most auto paints will lift with that as a base.
Epoxy Primer being Petro Based will run in excess of Hundreds per QUART, hardener and activator are Separate. Unless have a Booth for real paint, where auto shops these days use Water Suspended Auto Paints, check with anyone in the business before taking anyone else's word. Major malfunction is if intend to prime and allow to sit awhile, like days to weeks, will have to prep sand and reclean to apply any paints, my epoxy primers used on the Ford and KW were under 14-18 hours untouched after spraying could liberally apply paint. |
these will sit a while before painting. Probably a week between primer and paint.
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Posted: 3 hours 31 minutes ago at 6:11pm |
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Close to gallon and half of paint, gallon Clear, misc bottles of Hardener and Activator along with a Retarder and thinning agents, for the Ford including Primer, was close to $2300.00. Decimal is NOT in the wrong place, For the KW two and a half years earlier, close to 3.5gallons total was just over $3600.00. Never did add up all the Enamel Reducer, Lacquer Thinner purchases as to cleaning and degreasing. These were all matched chemically so one would not attack the other. IF can find someone with guns and a willingness to bargain, Water Based is around HALF the above pricing but requires special considerations and techniques.
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