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TomYaz 
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 Topic: All-Crop snap coupler grain drill.
Posted: 23 hours 17 minutes ago at 11:15am |
Question on its operation...
Is the use of the hydraulic "hold position" necessary to use this unit, or is just a drop to the ground deal?
Thinkin about getting one to play with but I despise the hold position setting on the WD45......
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 21 hours 10 minutes ago at 1:22pm |
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Only other thing you can do is set it for TB. Realize that it will drop quicker with less control and lever has to be full up all the while when raised. What's the issue with hold position?
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Posted: 21 hours 7 minutes ago at 1:25pm |
It's not suggested to use the TB setup and use it to hold up equipment for long periods of time. DR has advised against this.
I also find the hold positon odd and annoying, but I was using it in TB setup once while disking and left it up for a but and it locked up the hydraulics. Everything was stuck "up". U had to loosen the coupler to relieve pressure to get everything working again.
I suppose I find it annoying becasue the hold detent is so strong. It's difficult to jerk it up and down for a minor adjustment.
EDIT typo - It becasue stuck when in traction boost setup. A reason not to use TB setup when hold position should be used.
Edited by Allis dave - 4 hours 5 minutes ago at 6:27am
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Posted: 20 hours 33 minutes ago at 1:59pm |
<<It's difficult to jerk it up and down for a minor adjustment.>>
yep...pain when I want to set it up a bit up or down with brush hog. Would think adjusting for a grain drill is more exacting. ...not interested in that...screw it...
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Posted: 19 hours 58 minutes ago at 2:34pm |
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Tom, the spring coils control about 6-8" of vertical movement on each disc and seed tube across the width of the drill. I would think it's no issue. We have used the same drill on both WD and D14 without any issues on hold positions. I think the vertical travel helps make up any differential with the hold pos. Of the tractor. If that makes sense...
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Posted: 18 hours 46 minutes ago at 3:46pm |
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The one I had actually hung off the rock shaft. Just have to adjust the chains to allow the drill to be at the right depth. Do not need to hold with the hydraulics.
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Posted: 14 hours 55 minutes ago at 7:37pm |
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I just planted 13 acres of oats with one of those drills. The rockshaft chains hold it in place and there is an adjustment to help hold pressure on the openers. The fertilizer adjustment is pretty crude and the seed adjustment requires flipping a bunch of gears around. The biggest problem is the capacity is crazy small. Six bushels for grain and 400 pounds of fertilizer.
I like old obsolete allis equipment as much as anyone but this may be a machine best left in the back of the shed. Or maybe i am just exhausted from lugging bags of seeds in the 85 degree heat. My grandfather was a lot more tough than i.
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Posted: 12 hours 60 minutes ago at 9:32pm |
. "lugging bags of seeds in the 85 degree heat. My grandfather was a lot more tough than i."
My father used to say that. Didn't know how they did it, yet he worked so hard he fell asleep at the kitchen table eating chocolate cake.
You do what you gotta do. And you get by. It's always a struggle yet we do it.
Keep on farming.
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Posted: 5 hours 1 minutes ago at 5:31am |
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Thanks man. Biggest mistake i made was not running the machine down to the field a couple of days before to" field test" it. Then i would have realized the rockshaft chains were for a tractor with smaller rear tires or a different clearance. And i gave half my water to the old guy accross the street who didn't bring any. Next year will go smoother
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Posted: 4 hours 48 minutes ago at 5:44am |
 Don(MI) wrote:
Tom, the spring coils control about 6-8" of vertical movement on each disc and seed tube across the width of the drill. I would think it's no issue. We have used the same drill on both WD and D14 without any issues on hold positions. I think the vertical travel helps make up any differential with the hold pos. Of the tractor. If that makes sense... |
No matter the implement, I hate that hold control. However, years ago, and I cant remember what I was pulling, I had some custom hose made and I had the lift cylinders on the wd45 powered by the transport valve....that "held' it! Maybe I will do that again....
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Posted: 4 hours 47 minutes ago at 5:45am |
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Hmmm.....PM me....
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Posted: 4 hours 44 minutes ago at 5:48am |
den/southern illinoi wrote:
The one I had actually hung off the rock shaft. Just have to adjust the chains to allow the drill to be at the right depth. Do not need to hold with the hydraulics. |
Ok so I am trying to get my head around it....on a conventional drill the openers are held uip by the tires on the drill....you then drop the openers from that point to get the depth you want...what on the ac serves as the "tires" so to speak? I assumed it was the hold position on the hydraulics....
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Posted: 3 hours 50 minutes ago at 6:42am |
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Not a big fan of 'Hold Position' on the WD pump either. However, It is a non-factor with the All Crop Drill. Set the chains for the depth you want, adjust the spring pressure on the disc openers, and run with the lever all the way down. I use my drill every year, mostly in the spring. Handy as a pocket on a shirt!
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Posted: 3 hours 46 minutes ago at 6:46am |
IBWD MIke wrote:
Not a big fan of 'Hold Position' on the WD pump either. However, It is a non-factor with the All Crop Drill. Set the chains for the depth you want, adjust the spring pressure on the disc openers, and run with the lever all the way down. I use my drill every year, mostly in the spring. Handy as a pocket on a shirt! |
I see....I guess it will make much more sense by looking at one with a manual in hand.
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