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   I took on the task of teaching my grandson to drive. YIKES! he is not stupid, straight A student. But.........where is the common sense? Can't maintain a steady speed, he is always behind then car, instead of slowly giving it gas when approaching a hill, he waits until he has lost 20 MPH or more (speed limit 45) before he takes any action. Crests the hill, starts picking up speed, and doesn't let up until he's well over the speed limit, or I correct him. Drifts toward the boundaries of the lane, and then, at the last minute, jerks the wheel. No concept of where he is supposed to be on the road. Took a right from a traffic lane, but instead of turning into his lane, he cut diagonally across it, across a turn lane and into oncoming traffic lane!!! Thank fully, there was no oncoming traffic.
I keep pointing out to get ahead of the car, instead of behind it, but he is struggling with the concept. I would have thought with the generation of "gamers" their eye/hand coordination would be much better than this.

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LouSWPA Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Clinton, Pa Points: 24278	Post Options Post Reply Quote LouSWPA Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: this generation Posted: 7 hours 2 minutes ago at 12:37pm
	I took on the task of teaching my grandson to drive. YIKES! he is not stupid, straight A student. But.........where is the common sense? Can't maintain a steady speed, he is always behind then car, instead of slowly giving it gas when approaching a hill, he waits until he has lost 20 MPH or more (speed limit 45) before he takes any action. Crests the hill, starts picking up speed, and doesn't let up until he's well over the speed limit, or I correct him. Drifts toward the boundaries of the lane, and then, at the last minute, jerks the wheel. No concept of where he is supposed to be on the road. Took a right from a traffic lane, but instead of turning into his lane, he cut diagonally across it, across a turn lane and into oncoming traffic lane!!! Thank fully, there was no oncoming traffic. I keep pointing out to get ahead of the car, instead of behind it, but he is struggling with the concept. I would have thought with the generation of "gamers" their eye/hand coordination would be much better than this.
	I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27

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steve(ill) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 81354	Post Options Post Reply Quote steve(ill) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 6 hours 55 minutes ago at 12:44pm
	yea... probably an EXPERT in a 2D game... Its the 3D that gets them confused !
	Like them all, but love the "B"s.

DanWi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: wttn Points: 1794	Post Options Post Reply Quote DanWi Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 6 hours 18 minutes ago at 1:21pm
	They just never got the hands-on skills. When we were kids, we rode bikes around the city dealing with traffic. I don't think some kids now days even know how to ride a bike. We had go-carts, minibikes and snowmobiles and learned throttle and brake control and how to anticipate a situation. We started driving small tractors and moving up to bigger ones. We would have to drive a pickup across the field or out to the field. Dad and Grandpa taught us these things, but it was under orders of higher powers, Mother and Grandma. When I took drivers ed in high school we had a 4-cylinder, stick shift car. the first day of driving me and another farm boy were paired up for behind the wheel. We started the first day driving around the parking lot, it was a pretty big lot you could make a loop around. When we finished our first day the teacher says to both of us, I can see you boys have driven vehicles. Next class we can go on the road. Some kids didn't get to leave the parking lot for 2 weeks. We got shorted driving time at the end of the semester because other kids needed more practice. Still flunked my first driving test because of a stupid nervous mistake.

Lars(wi) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Permian Basin Points: 7256	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lars(wi) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 3 hours 40 minutes ago at 3:59pm
	I had plenty of practice driving pickups, and grain trucks before getting my license. As was common in Wisconsin at the time, nearly all males were an automatic ‘fail’ on their first driving test. My older Brother actually did pass the first time, instructor told my Dad, ‘your son was so nervous, I didn’t have the heart to fail him, and make him go thru the test again’. Me? That bastard failed me, said I drove ‘too much with one hand on the wheel’.
	I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.

DMiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 31140	Post Options Post Reply Quote DMiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 3 hours 25 minutes ago at 4:14pm
	Was Lapside driving Grandmother's 55 Bel Air at 9, was driving Field trucks at Greenville IL at 11 along with R model Deeres, been behind a wheel of some machine seemingly Forever and my skills show out.

Hubert (Ga)engine7 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson Cnty,GA Points: 6299	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hubert (Ga)engine7 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 2 hours 22 minutes ago at 5:17pm
	My granddaughter was driving at 14; she wanted to drive my F250 so I handed her the keys and got in the passenger seat. She drove about 30 miles on back roads and did fine. At 15 she took a driving course called Brakes that taught skid control, recovery after running off the road, and collision avoidance all under controlled conditions. Don’t know if this course still exists but it was worth far more than the money and time expended.
	Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God.

DaveKamp Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5755	Post Options Post Reply Quote DaveKamp Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 2 hours 2 minutes ago at 5:37pm
	Call me a very sick man, I actually enjoy teaching first-timers to drive... Or ride a bicycle... or motorcycle... or waterski... or operate a passenger train... or pilot a boat... Realize that when doing so, there's TWO 'comfort zones' that need to be broken: First is that of the student... second is that of the instructor. Learning to do something with machinery or tools happens in stages. I can relate it best to learining morse-code: AT FIRST, you learn and listen for dits and dahs, and turn them into letters and numbers. THEN, you hear the letters and form words. THEN you hear words (long and shortand abbreviations) and turn them into sentences. THEN the sentences become conversation. The steps of learning are all about committing a part of one's direct attention into a subconcious process. In learning morse code, one must listen through the noise for the dits and dahs of the station you want to hear (there's lots of others coming amids all the other noise). Then you're listening to determine the speed and rythm of what's being sent, and deciding wether the sound was a short (dit) or long (dah), and wether the space between was a new character, or a new word. Eventually all those actions become comitted to subconcious processing... with that done, one's brain can use the immediate attention to arranging words... then sentences, etc. When one learns to operate any machine, there's similar concurrent activities that must be learned. Once seat set, belted in, mirrors adjusted, engine started, check the gauges, lights on, parking brake released, the act of driving a has steering, brakes, throttle, that includes lane position, speed regulation, as well as navigation, traffic awareness, obstructions and hazards, periphery and distraction management, signalling, pedestrian avoidance, rules of the road... And if there's a manual transmission involved... clutch, shift, RPM, downhill and uphill shifting, starting on hills (rollback management)... Each of these is a necessary step, gotta start somewhere, get that part licked, then move to the next. Patience.. and a big empty parking lot.
	Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.

LouSWPA Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Clinton, Pa Points: 24278	Post Options Post Reply Quote LouSWPA Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 1 hour 49 minutes ago at 5:50pm
	Hubert, I taught all four of my children to drive. One of the things i did with each of them was to find an empty (large) parking lot in the winter taught them how to do donuts and power slides in the snow. Probably not as good as the class your GD took, but I do believe it was worth the effort
	I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27

PaulB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Rocky Ridge Md Points: 4757	Post Options Post Reply Quote PaulB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 32 minutes ago at 7:07pm
	I've been driving tractor since I was so small I had to slide down in the seat to push in the clutch. Staying on the rows to cultivate or just to cover a field with a disc taught me spacial conception. When I got to be 16 going for a drivers license was a piece of cake. Today's kids aren't allowed to do anything growing up. then they are expected to be able to do something as they approach adulthood. Edited by PaulB - 30 minutes ago at 7:09pm
	If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY

Tbone95 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11608	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tbone95 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 minutes ago at 7:26pm
	Good thing it’s thanksgiving

Ray54 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4550	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ray54 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 8 minutes ago at 7:31pm
	I have let my grandkids steer the Gator side by side since 5 or 6 years old. They stand between legs, I RUN THE GAS, and brake. they just steer. They only got to do it were several months. The 3 oldest can now reach the pedals (the oldest just turned 14, how did that happen) . Grandpa has some control issues but they know not to fast and we do Ok.