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Series 610 all terrain forklift

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    Posted: 17 Nov 2024 at 5:40pm
Hey all. I am a timber framer, and I often cut beams larger than I can lift anymore. I bought an old AC rough terrain forklift, and it doesn't run, but I am getting close. I bought the shop manual, it's in the mail, but this thing has been tough to find info on. Based on the info I have so far, it is the same as a D15 series II. (?) I think.

I will post a pic once I figure out how. it has been fun, so far. I figured out you have to push the leftmost foot petal, and that lets the engine turn and starter crank. I don't even know what it does yet....

Anyways, the distributor is old and has rusted so the advance won't work. Any idea what part number I need? Thanks for any help...
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to put in photos, click on the "POST REPLY" button at the left, below the Last Post... Then click on the GREEN TREE ICON in the heading of the  BOX... and look for your photo on the phone or your computer desk top.... If the photo is 4000 x 3000 pixels and 4 MB in size, it will not load.... Open in PAINT and make it 800 x 600 size and then download.

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you can find " parts" and maybe a complete distributor on e-bay.... Or better to call STEVE at B&B and talk to him.. He can answer all your questions,  and will have any parts you need.. or a COMPLETE rebuilt distributor ready to go...



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STEVE can also heip you with a starter / generator / wire harness if needed.... and answer ALL the questions..


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thanks, I will do that today...
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I got the new distributor, and it still sputters, but wont run. it sparks fine. I checked the compression and i had zero psi in 3 and only 90 in 4. 1 and 2 were 140. Not good enough to run!

I took the head of in 15 minutes. You gotta love tractors. the valves in 3 werent seating properly, and the ex valve in 4 was chipped away. So that explains that.

gonna order some parts, and have the valve seats redone. I finally got the book on my tractor/forklift, and the book says I have a Power Crater 160 motor, but I cant find much info on them, anyone know?

apparently there was also a perkins 3 cyl that was called that as well.
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That engine series started as a 138 cubic inch in the D10- 12 ... Later that was bugger bored to 149 and many in the D14 and D15 farm tractors.... Last update was to 160 inch for the D15 series 2..... GOOD MOTOR !!

I think valves / springs / "parts" for the D14 and D15 149 motor should all fit, except the BIGGER PISTONS...
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couple of sites list a different part number for the later D15 II engines ( i think they mean the 175 cid diesel)-- ( valve kit).. some site list them as all the same..( gas??). VERIFY with vendor prior to purchase..





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Power Crater was the later design of pistons used in several tractors... The design was a DISH or CRATER in the center of the piston that  moved the gas / air mixture to a concentrated point in the center under the spark plug... Should be more efficient and more HP.
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The Allis WD came out in 1948 with W Series 201 cu.in. with Flat Top Pistons.

In 1953 the WD was upgraded and introduced as the WD-45.

The 'W' Block was revised, the stroke was increased to give 226 cu.in. and the Flat Top Pistons were replaced with dished top Pistons.

This Engine was advertised on WD-45 Brochures as:

   The Dynamic New WD-45 tractor with POWER-CRATER Engine

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1313&_nkw=Allis+WD-45+Power+Crater+brochure&_sacat=0



The G Series Engine, as it was known, was introduced in 1957 by Allis as a 149 cu.in. Engine in one of first 'D' Series Tractors, the D-14,a 6 Volt electric

In 1959 Allis introduced the D-10 and D-12, de-cubed to 138 cu.in. still 6 Volt.

In 1961 the G Engine was back to 149 in D-10 / 12, but with 12 Volt.

About that same time the D-15 was introduced replacing the D-14, but still 149.

The early D-15 were grossly underpowered for their size, esp. with D-10 and     D-12's having the same Engine.

So the D-15 was upgraded to a Ser.II Model with a 160 cu.in. Engine.

Other mods to the 160 were a Full-Flow Oil Filter ( Fram PH8A), replacing the previous By-Pass filter (C159), a horizontal Dry Type Air Filter , replacing the Oil-Bath style.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126787463857?_skw=Allis+D-15+Ser.II+brochure&itmmeta=01JE2S5KYT1XFCHGADY8H6G8PV&hash=item1d851f2ab1:g:XhkAAOSwwVdnPgzF&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKmYvzn6K%2BECxuL65MN4XW5VpDIVzrenQznetIb4Q0iqFYokK%2B%2Bl1GlHlY2zdnICk9t5jrAZFb4FLhTBjw21KmNwGloIrebnHhYH9QLgIPiv7AGEL4iDmWrbugDqUri%2FXZ2kpszP1NQz5bUgiCRk0SR9PbdkzQ%2BcEvJ0c11oQ2csriyHO98Z1zQWDb4bX0WyWHivGrpPtcQFrpjfFBiJJiERf8rqFUN9knACjHzw2N9VQGGU8hWJTCAi7ADv3V0ExaaVhzxDT%2BkfHe7AAE27oC1gnbH7urhwYkGOcO9haVQOvw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8C_ltnwZA

This gives you a little more insight to the Allis progression from the 'B/C' Series 125 cu.in. up to the G Series 160 cu.in.

Gary

BTW the 500 Series and 600 Series Rough Terrain Fork Lift are NOT based on the D-15 Farm Tractor like some other Allis Industrial Models.

The 500's and 600's are an extra Heavy Duty Brute all their own.

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Thanks for all the info, that is all very helpful...
I gotta get this beast back up and running...
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