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Matthewjackson73
Bronze Level Joined: 23 May 2020 Location: Ky Points: 14 |
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Posted: 24 May 2020 at 11:39am |
My 7040 will ony pull in first gear on the high side and low side and high side reverse any suggestions
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Leon B MO
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That same thing happened to our 8050 powershift. Sounds like the nut on the end of the input shaft failed or bearing failed. We took the valve body off the right hand side of the tractor, then you can stick a bar into the transmission under the main shaft, if you have up and down play a split is the only way to fix it. Sorry about the bad news.
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Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself".
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Matthewjackson73
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When that happened to yours did it do it all of the sudden it was fine all morning quit for a couple hours and came back and it was like that
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DrAllis
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You say it will pull in reverse high range. There is no reason that it shouldn't be able to pull in low range if it will pull high range. That being said, if there's any oil dripping from the bellhousing, the big nut is probably loose. Removal of the right side fuel tank and then the power shift valve assembly will allow you to reach in from the side and get a long pry bar under the front clutch packs and see if you can move it up and down. You should get very little movement, like pretty near zero movement. If the nut has backed off it will obviously move.
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Matthewjackson73
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Ok thanks i still dont understand why it didn't do it that morning i was using it the problem just came up after i let it sit for a few hours and came back to it any ideas
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MACK
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Could have shared bolts off in clutch housing. What ever it is, it's a complete rebuild. MACK
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DrAllis
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I don't think it's productive for you to question why it did what it did and when it did it. You have a problem that needs to be addressed, so figure it out or don't use the tractor any further until you do. The large nut on the front end of the transmission has a history of loosening up on its own. If that isn't it, then you must have a shift control valve problem. Either way, the shift valve and fuel tank have to be removed to diagnose the problem.
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Matthewjackson73
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Ok thanks for the info
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Lynn Marshall
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Matt, anytime a power shift tractor is brought to me with a suspected major problem, I always put it in a position in the shop where it can be split. I don't want to put the valve body back on just to move it over to a different location after I have removed it. I even spin the rear wheels out for added room if it has that option before I take the valve body off. Expect the worst and hope for the best.
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Matthewjackson73
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Good info thanks im not much of a mechanic so i was sorta hoping it be something simple like a filter plugged or something like that
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DrAllis
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Is it leaking oil out of the bell housing ??
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Matthewjackson73
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No sir
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MACK
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Pull valve body and lower screen cover and check for broken bolt heads in bottom. MACK
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I am looking for someone to fix this problem for me. I am from the UK, London webcam live. But actually, location does not matter as you can get access to my computer in a remote mode through different tools. You just need to have a few spare minutes. I would be very grateful if someone can at least diagnose the issue. Let me know if you are ready to devote some time to me.
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Lonn
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TCRanch
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My 7040 just stopped pulling and I pulled valve body and I got 3 bolts in bottom.
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DrAllis
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Three 3/8" diameter bolts down low at the suction screen?? That is serious and will require a transmission removal and OHaul. DO YOU STILL HAVE POWER STEERING ???
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TCRanch
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Yes I do
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TCRanch
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It just happened and I shut it down pulled it up to shop with pickup
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DrAllis
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Power steering working means torque limiter on the flywheel is OK fine. Broken 3/8" diameter bolts at the suction screen is bad. 5/16" bolts at the suction screen are from the shifting valve and not nearly as serious.
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TCRanch
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Ok where do I need to split it to get there
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DrAllis
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This is no small task, especially for a novice. Both fuel tanks need to be removed. Split at the back of the engine (support engine with long dowel bolts thru side frames lower holes) and roll the front end ahead about 10 feet. Raise the front of the cab an inch or so and support it. Split a second time at the rear end housing and roll the 30 inch long transmission out from under the cab. Begin the tear down. Some special tools are needed.
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TCRanch
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I have help split them in past and got a stand What are the special tools I need
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DrAllis
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Special tooling made by OTC for Allis-Chalmers dealerships. Many I could get by without but one large diameter deep socket for the front clutch pack is kind of important, but you might be able to get by without it. Special clutch pack clips to squeeze the discs/plates/wave springs together are helpful too.
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TCRanch
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Ok I missed that ? On size then had to find what my wife did with them 3 3/8
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HudCo
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just wondering ? what do these three bolts hold together , is their somthing that could be pm'd at so many hours before they broke or fell out
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DrAllis
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The broken off 3/8" bolts retain a gear to the rear clutch housing. No access until the transmission is torn down. Transmission oil changes every 1,000 hrs and inspection of the suction screen can indicate if a problem has started. Sadly, too many never get the suction screen cleaned and operate the tractor until ALL the bolts are sheared off and it quits moving. Now, the damage is massive.
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Lynn Marshall
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The most important special tool needed is a good, original service manual. It gives a detailed description of the steps to do that job. It also shows the factory special tools that are almost essential to do this. On a side note, I roll the engine and transmission assembly out from the tractor and then remove the transmission from the engine once it's clear.
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TCRanch
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Yes sir got it and parts book learning in my old age lol
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TCRanch
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Ok thank you I m going to fix my 200 first that old girl has only role once in20 years and it was me over tightening hydronic pump
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