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    Posted: 31 Aug 2024 at 7:17pm
Have several truck wheels to blast and paint so put this together this afternoon from old stuff around the shop. It is powered with my shop portable hydraulic pumping unit and is variable speed. Once a wheel is mounted up it can be blasted, primed, and painted without being removed or handled. This is a prototype only and I plan to build five more that are double ended to really ramp up production. Tack welded to either a bench, or steel 55gl drum they will be at about the correct height to work with. This is only for the "Budd" style wheels and I'll fashion adapters for the later "unimount", and Dayton styles.

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Old wheel mounted up and rotating about the speed it will normally operate at:


I'll make a guard that will cover all the mechanics of the operator and keep media out of the chain couplers and bearings. This is heavier than the finished product will be but using what I had around the shop to test the theory.
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I LIKE IT !!!... How do you sand blast ?  Have a little tent that goes over the wheel ?  You on the outside reaching in or does the tent go over you also ?
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I have a portable tent that erects easily kinda/sorta like the vendors use at outdoor flea markets and such if blasting remote from the shop. With the sides installed, the mess is contained easily. Also have this portable automotive shelter purchased from Menard's a couple years back and it too works well but not so easily erected quickly. These are from a subdivision sign I did a couple years back:






Shop vac easily picks up the media leaving a clean jobsite behind.

I blasted the sign board, pillars, and lamps, (unshown) in the tent and the letters back at the shop. Same with the painting as the sign was painted in the tent and letters back at the shop.
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For small items such as these wheels, I can stick them in the cabinet and blast clean, (slow) or this jig will allow me to stand stationary and dependent upon nozzle selected, will blast accordingly. I have both 45, and 90 degree blast nozzles along with straight discharge. There is enough clearance between where the wheels mount to the supports of the apparatus to blast clean, so won't need to dismount. Skid steer and a clean endless loop strap make it easy to handle.

Had a hell of a run during last year's harvest with old farm trucks being stopped citing "rusty" wheels. Just another ploy for money by the state police under the auspice of "roadway safety", but this setup will probably go into usage should that happen again. As of now I have a couple dozen wheels to process, and ready a few aluminum wheels to be powder coated.

Also have several tractor wheels to do so will fashion jigs to hold them also.


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Great work... Looks like you got a good business going !!  Thumbs Up  Thumbs Up
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I like that rig... particularly how you resolved the 'bolt circle' issue with a single strap.

I've got a fixture that I set up on my forklift, runs on a small AC servomotor, my next step is to make a bracket to hold 4" grinder with cutoff wheel for cutting centers out, or widening rims.  Haven't needed it yet though.  Putting a sandblasting nozzle on there, and rotating it at a controllable speed is an excellent plan!
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I will most likely power this with an AC motor through a VFD for variable speed eventually. I think it can be made physically smaller, and without the pumping unit required. These are all items unused around the shop, so pressed into service. 

The hydraulic pumping unit is an "OilGear" brand, pressure compensated, and originally used with my portable line boring setup. As shown in the videos, and even with that wheel moving at very slow speed, you would not stop it by hand. I use it routinely to test hydraulic motors, valves, cylinders, etc. as so compatible with operations.


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When I wire brushed my D-14 rear rims, I mounted 2, 12" conveyor rollers on some wood. Not near as fancy as yours,but worked for me.

Sand blasting a a HUGE ,messy operation.dang sand gets everywhere....and city has effectively banned commercial ops here.
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There are a lot of things I do that are not "politically friendly"; hence my shop is not in the city. Blasting can be messy, but doesn't have to be. For remote, and/or large items my tent structures keep this down to a minimum and I always leave a clean jobsite behind. The tumble blasters and rotary table in the larger cabinet are used often for smaller things. 

My blasters have a "blow off" feature which cuts the media flow and allows full air flow through the hoses. This will rid residual media for the most part, but final cleanup is always required/needed.
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Forgot to post this as it's the sign job after the landscapers finished yet before the decorative lamps were reinstalled onto the pillars. 
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Seems to do as it's supposed to do. Makes it quite easy to get primer and paint into the nooks and crannies of the rim(s) smoothly and evenly.



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Three drying in the sun and a fourth on the spinner drying down. Will get tires mounted up tomorrow morning and reinstalled onto the rear of the tractor. Blasted the front rims to paint possibly later today, or yet tomorrow.


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Had some fasterners from an A-C to clean up for no particular reason. I do a lot of this type work for the antique car, and furniture world where the correct fasteners, clips, pulls, etc. are NLA and originals must be reused. These fasteners are actually from my 11B dozer that mount the floor plates into the tractor. They are crusty and the photos are 20 minutes apart being before, and after a quick run in a small tumble blaster:




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I think they called this a "stipper pan", (or something like that) from a Gleaner combine. Don't know anything about it but going to clean it up and give it some paint attention:


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Originally posted by Codger Codger wrote:


Three drying in the sun and a fourth on the spinner drying down. Will get tires mounted up tomorrow morning and reinstalled onto the rear of the tractor. Blasted the front rims to paint possibly later today, or yet tomorrow.



Nice work.  A lot of wood turners do something similar with wood turnings, they use a BBQ spit motor that turns real slow, to let the wood turn, as the finish dries...
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Thanks Dave; a rotisserie motor is how this thing started out. I have this little gearmotor with a #35 roller chain sprocket and a small loop of chain, but nothing to mate it with. The hydraulic motor drive reverses and is a direct couple to the support shaft supported by the pillow block bearings. Once I finish this wheels task I'll mount up a 15" faceplate and use it as an impromptu "positioner" for welding and such. As a rotary positioner for welding, (as example) the variable speed of rotation and direction are very beneficial as I'm getting lazy in my old age.



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I'm kinda getting a little old to be busting tires any longer but nobody else volunteered so had to do it. Tires mounted up easily on the freshly painted rims and look pretty good reinstalled onto the truck with new inner and outer nuts on the rears, and new nuts on the fronts, along with all new valve stems. 

Cousin's truck and I didn't ask if I could put the photos online so blanked the signage out. He probably wouldn't care but all the same. Going to paint the front bumper tonight and probably start on the trailer rims tomorrow as supposed to be cooler. They are open center Dayton style on the trailer so won't need the spinner as access is easy.




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Wheels are so shiny and clean, I just couldn't let the front bumper be dull so a bit of black paint later......

The photo is this morning after an overnight dry:

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Does your family farm anything west of Dalton City to cause you to haul east on the Macon blacktop? Two falls ago I was eastbound after work late afternoon and following a white INT single axle tractor pulling single axle hopper with tarp off loaded with corn. Driver dropped off rt edge of pavement and jumped back on violently. It went whip left,whip right and whip left before it came under control all the while slinging a large amount of corn out the top with each move! It came real close to flipping over on the first whip. It was amusing kinda.....
Hope it wasn't you. Nobody around but him and I and I didn't rat on him.


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Nothing of interest

Edited by Codger - 16 Nov 2024 at 9:09pm
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what are you using for paint ? .......... hardener ?
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