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    Posted: 26 Jun 2024 at 11:29pm
I copied the voltage regulator as detailed in the following link for use on a Wisconsin VH4D in a MF skidsteer. After experimental testing I ended up using a 14 Volt Zener diode but all other electrical components were identical. I used a slightly different layout because I made my own box and then potted it to resist vibration. Works great!


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote steve(ill) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jun 2024 at 8:01am
wonder why their "BOX" is $200.  ???  Maybe no aftermarket manufacturers?   Grandkids have a small 4 wheeler that had the NO CHARGE problem.. I bought a Chink knock off box for about $15.  ........... Never thought about making my own.. Interesting project !!
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Those older type Wisconsin 'permanent-magnet alternators' had an unusual regulating scheme wherein there is a third 'regulating' winding that is tightly wound around the two main charging windings. Since the field isn't controllable, you have to somehow control the output directly; when this low-amperage third winding is shorted to ground, it effectively kills the output of the main windings. The regulator accomplishes this by using a Zener diode to sense the voltage and trigger an SCR (Silicon Controlled Rectifier) which shorts out the regulating winding.

I dissected the original (dead) regulator, which had tiny components, and was well on my way of designing a copy when I stumbled upon this BMW copy on the "All About Circuits" forum and said "AHA!". So I un-ashamedly copied it. This design uses much heavier components so it should be pretty robust; it also incorporates the rectifier into the same package as the regulator, unlike the original Wisconsin style that used separate modules.

Most of the inexpensive permanent-magnet type alternators found in motorcycles, etc. use a simple 'shunt' regulator where the excess energy is simply turned into heat via some type of Zener diode arrangement. The Wisconsin third-winding type doesn't generate near as much heat (in theory) but is certainly more expensive to manufacture, which is probably why they discontinued them.

A friend of mine owns this skidsteer and mentioned that the regulators were no longer available, so I opened my big mouth and said I could probably build one for it...LOL




Edited by Les Kerf - 27 Jun 2024 at 12:21pm
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Having that "I can fix it!" Gene is a curse!
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