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175 XTD on the dyno !! |
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DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 19746 |
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Posted: 27 May 2024 at 6:09pm |
Video on Red Barn Machine Works. We started out with 92 HP and had to turn it down to 83 HP at 2300 RPM. Great torque back-up with 73 HP at 1650 RPM.
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Ed (Ont)
Orange Level Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Location: New Lowell, Ont Points: 1233 |
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Wow!!!
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captaindana
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Fort Plain, NY Points: 2400 |
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Holy moley Doc look what you’ve created!! Congrats!
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3531 |
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Lynn Marshall
Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Dana, Iowa Points: 2163 |
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That rig is mean and burnin clean. Sounds great.
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AC7060IL
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Congrats DrAllis & thanks for sharing. Great project & video. You’ve created the 100 series AC 433 engine tractor that AC could have built prior to their 6000 series.
I’m going guess that it’ll burn 3-ish? Gallon/hr plowing with 4-14? 4-15? bottoms… accomplishing 2.5-3 plowed acres/hr ?? Edited by AC7060IL - 28 May 2024 at 9:54am |
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DrAllis
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Nebraska Test for 6080 tractor says 5.0 GPH at 83 PTO HP ( 16.68 HPHPG) output. At 45 HP it drops to 3.47 GPH. I dyno a lot of newer/modern engines and 20 flywheel HP for a gallon of fuel burned is about as efficient as it can get. Flywheel HP on a 6080 would have been in the 95 to 100 HP range (83 at the PTO) and at 5.0 GPH that 1978-80 engine was very efficient for its day. The 175 gas burned 5.1 GPH making 61 HP, where now with the diesel will burn 5.0 GPH making 83 HP.
Edited by DrAllis - 28 May 2024 at 1:30pm |
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200Tom1
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Congrats on getting her done Doc.
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BillinAlberta
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Heck of a job.Well done.
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steve fischer
Orange Level Joined: 11 Jul 2011 Location: sleepy eye mn Points: 933 |
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the way they should of been ,all Allis, I love the one we put together ,have been running ours at 85 86 hp when we had it in Hutchinson in 2018 , never heard if Doug Stamp ever had his on dyno
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AC7060IL
Orange Level Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3229 |
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DrAllis, your new 175xt has got me pondering.... Your prior post "moldboard-plow-sizing" theory ~ tractor pto hp= width of plow in inches? So it's 83hp = 83 inches of plow width. That would equate to a 5x16 plow(80 inches)? Has that thought come to mind for this tractor? Could it's drive-train hold up to it? Here's a link to the post I'm referring to; Edited by AC7060IL - 11 Jun 2024 at 11:21am |
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DrAllis
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The transmission would be the weak link. Final drives are the same as the 180/185, so they could handle the chassis weighing 9000 lbs but I'm thinking second gear in the transmission wouldn't like it long term. Probably not the ring and pinion either. It's not all about the HP and torque. It makes a difference what it WEIGHS. But, yes. If the tractor weighed at least 100 lbs per PTO HP it would pull that size plow at a modest depth of less than 6 inches I'd say. Rear tire size would be pretty small at 16.9 x 28's. Optional 18.4 x 28's would be much better.
Edited by DrAllis - 11 Jun 2024 at 8:56pm |
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3531 |
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Hey Doc., are you bringing this thing to Amana this weekend? I've got a tap for you.
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DrAllis
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No. Been too busy with tractor rides to work on the 175XTD. I remember the tap discussion, but have now forgotten what it was for ?? Exhaust manifold pipe maybe ??
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DrAllis
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Thank you for the tap, Mike. I'm glad I went to the Amana Show. Saw lots of nice Allis iron and dozens of old friends. Thank you all for a very nice day.
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Kenny L.
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NEIOWA Points: 1235 |
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Dr. it was good seeing you and listening to your tractor ride story, also good to see Mike again and everyone else. Take care of yourself Dr.
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3531 |
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Your welcome Doc, happy to help. Great show as usual. Great talking with everyone. I really like that 7030 of Luke and Dale's!
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