6080

Those are still pretty popular and this ones low hours, just guessin in the $12,000- $15,000 range ; alot depends on paint etc; just an opinion and watching online auctions

Edited by DougG - 16 Jan 2024 at 7:30am

The one I am looking at is priced at the high end of that range. The guy that owns it now bought it from his father about 10 years ago. His father bought it from the original owner around 2000 and it had most of the hours on it at that time. The owner is solid on his price and said he would sell it at auction if he doesn't get it. I don't think he will realize his asking price at auction once the fees are removed but he is willing to roll the dice. I could wait it out but the tractor is in acerage country and has a loader and fwa and compared to new/newer stuff is relatively cheap so I am not sure it will stick around for long. Not many of these tractors around here and might be a long time before something better comes along. I haven't looked at it yet as it is 5 plus hours away and the weather has been to cold to venture out that far. Don't really need this tractor but it would be a nice addition to the fleet.

Acguywill wrote: Am looking at an 83 allis 6080 fwa open station loader tractor. Has 2700 hrs on it, looks ok tires are original and getting cracked needs seat and has regular wear and tear for a 40 plus year old tractor. What is it worth? Dad had a 2wd one with a loader on it when I was a kid and I always wanted to get one with fwa. Dad sold ours to an uncle when it had about 6500 hrs on it and the only thing I can remember fixing on it was a head gasket. My uncle ran it for years and scrapped it when the transmission piled up with around 20k hours on it. Anyway just looking for an excuse to buy this one.

AC 6000 series are a combination of AC 433I diesel / Fiat drivetrain. Fwa might be a plus, given it's been a loader tractor? I would think the Fwa would better handle loader weights, but depends on operator? If fwa is in good condition(price bump). 2700 hrs is very low? Check that it's hour meter is accurate?(price bump?). Tires are expensive & it will be needing them soon(price reduction). Operator knowledge / use of tractor can be very helpful. Make sure it's 433I has had it's front thrush bearing kit installed. No cab in Canada(price reduction)? Canadian dollar range might be 16-21K if high end is realized? You say the owner wants a higher end price. Might go test drive it to understand it's actual condition. If its what you want, offer cash at test drive. If owner refuses cash offer, then you can still bid at auction. Your statement about "don't really need it" category speaks volumes. 


Edited by AC7060IL - 16 Jan 2024 at 11:11am

Actually that is the tractor. I just mixed up the hours with another tractor I was looking at. The owner said it's in working order but the pto leaver is not working quite right. Most likely just rusty from lack of use.

The front bearing kit - the first 6080's failed the thrust bearings. Then they went to slotted bearings - this did not fix the issue - THEN finally they went to a wider thrust flange and wider corresponding thrust area on the crank.  For the earlier ones that survived w/o too much damage, mostly due to slow starting with the foot clutch and PTO clutch depressed and way too much thrust, there was a front support/bearing set up that took the pressure off the thrust bearing and put it on the cone/cup front bearing (that had a grease point a lot do not know of) .  There was a roll pin that failed and the roll pin was replaced with a solid dowel pin. 6060's faired better due to less pressure but we installed the kits on all we sold.  This issue arose because testing did not show this failure due the amount of hours put on quick, plus there had never been an issue before.  This cost AC more than a million.  Tractor division had to foot the bill - not the Harvey engine plant - another 'straw on the camels back'.  BUT they fixed the issue and left no farmer holding the bag$ that I know of.    **PRIOR ENGINE S/N 33K-21863 was the cut in sn   DOWEL PIN IS PN 70268703   also there were a number of F2 Combine engines swapped into 6080's -most did not have the wide flange and the uninformed did not swap the front support.  The 6080 was the highest market share tractor AC had in the 'modern ere'.  Per Ed Swingle the 6000 series had over 20 % market share at times - WAY above other models.  

i have a late model deutz allis 6080 that the upgraded thrust bearings failed on in the the block. I bought it that way.  no outer  support on it.  the block was worn into, this was over 10 years ago. i swapped a low hour f2 engine in and keep the pto in the fwd position, no problems since . checked crank play every couple years and it hasnt changed any.

Our father bought a new 6060 in 1981. AC failed to notify him of the front thrust bearing repair. Our local dealer never mentioned it which has always been a sore subject for me personally. Not sure which one mishandled it but regardless it was never addressed. With that being said, if the pto, pto disconnect lever are used like the manual explains, we were told there would be no issue. The problem occurs when the pto disconnect lever is left in the disconnect position for long periods of time putting extra pressure on the front bearing. If it is used correctly then there should be no issue. The bad, the front bearing support is NLA. Really good tractors as long as they are operated as designed. Is it a flaw, absolutely, but use the pto disconnect lever as it was intended and there shouldn’t be an issue.

The parts needed for the front bearing support are still available from AGCO individually but for everything you would need it would cost over $1,400.

Edited by DSeries4 - 18 Jan 2024 at 12:30pm

Why not ? As long as you keep everything lubed and workable - never had problems with the pto

Ron(AB) wrote: It's not a good auger tractor.

The little massey has interlock switches so it will not crank over unless it is in neutral and the pto is disengaged. Interestingly it does not have one on the clutch pedal so no need to push it in to start the tractor which makes it so handy for auger use. I think only the newer tractors with electronic pto engagement have the push button shut-off, the oldest tractor I have with that is a 1998 model. Anything that new would be priced out of range for my application. If I remember correctly the 6080 shuts off with the key so an emergency kill switch could be mounted anywhere.
Safety is important but it, like art, is in the eye of the beholder. What is safe to one person may seem completely nuts to another. To me most things are safe as long as you pay attention to what you are doing and know your limitations.

Does anyone know if the 6000 series tractors came from the factory with 4 or 5 digit hour meters? My brother went and looked at one yesterday and it was a 5. Just trying to figure out if it the original or if it was replaced at some point. Tractor looked OK but had lots of old tractor issues; lights, seat, oil leaks, steering pin wear (FWA), etc. It has been used on an acerage for years but I think it was used pretty hard earlier in its life. The loader has some cracks and is plated in spots it is also tweaked a bit. It is a usable tractor but could use some tlc.