allis chamlers 160 hyd.

does anyone know where i can get over haul kit for the hyd. relief valve and all other parts to over haul the system thanks, John

AC720Man thanks. The next time i'm down your way I would to look you up .

agco has nothing I clean all filters new pump took relief valve out but was ok no dirt or pits i'm stunned

my 160 by the way i have 2 of them. lift arms moves slow only above 1200 rpm and will not lift much weight. my filter is under the fuel tank. every this you mention i check and the remotes don't work if i could get parts i would over haul the whole system even the block under the seat. both my 160's are 1970

John, if Dr Allis is willing to sell that you need to buy that manual.
John, lets try something simple. You have had the system open which means that if you haven’t bled the system, air lock could be causing your problem. My lift arms and remotes did not function after I split the tractor to do a engine rebuild. The easiest way I found was to place a hydraulic fitting with a hose long enough to reach into a 5 gallon bucket or suitable container into the top rear remote. Operate the hydraulic lever back and forth until a full amount of hydraulic fluid shoots out of the hose and into the container. Switch to the bottom remote and repeat the process. It only took 2 cycles for mine to shoot out a full stream. Once I got full flow and no air on both remotes all hydraulic functions returned to normal. Lift arms and remotes worked as they should. Make sure your hydraulic fluid is full before and after the procedure. Let me know the results. By the way, you have a One-Sixty which is the earlier model. Filter locations are different versus the 160 that I have which is a newer model.

Edited by AC720Man - 26 Oct 2022 at 10:47pm

1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD

If I have a customer with a 160 that has hyd. problems i check all filters ,bleed pump at pump ,then put flow rater on pump to see what it is doing first .

He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.

If you can flow rate the pump then u will know for sure what pump is doing ,if pump is good set flow meter up on remote check pressure and flow ( gallons pre min) ,

Edited by Fred in Pa - 27 Oct 2022 at 10:51am

He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.

Fred i'll have to find a flow meter some where. thanks

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John WV Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Location: bunker hill wv Points: 273	Post Options Post Reply Quote John WV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: allis chamlers 160 hyd. Posted: 22 Oct 2022 at 6:00pm
	does anyone know where i can get over haul kit for the hyd. relief valve and all other parts to over haul the system thanks, John

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AC720Man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 10 Oct 2016 Location: Shenandoah, Va Points: 5126	Post Options Post Reply Quote AC720Man Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 2022 at 9:04pm
	Check with an AGCO dealer first, they have a decent network of dealers who may have what your looking for. I’ve found several parts that I needed that way for my 160 and D17 series I.
	1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD

John WV Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Location: bunker hill wv Points: 273	Post Options Post Reply Quote John WV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Oct 2022 at 4:21pm
	AC720Man thanks. The next time i'm down your way I would to look you up .

AC720Man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 10 Oct 2016 Location: Shenandoah, Va Points: 5126	Post Options Post Reply Quote AC720Man Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Oct 2022 at 8:33pm
	Be glad to show you my AC’s and answer any questions about my 160.
	1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD

John WV Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Location: bunker hill wv Points: 273	Post Options Post Reply Quote John WV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Oct 2022 at 3:51pm
	agco has nothing I clean all filters new pump took relief valve out but was ok no dirt or pits i'm stunned

AC720Man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 10 Oct 2016 Location: Shenandoah, Va Points: 5126	Post Options Post Reply Quote AC720Man Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Oct 2022 at 8:43pm
	What kind of issue are you having? Depending on the model, filter locations are different. My 160 has the large filter canister just behind the radiator on the right side. Also a transmission/hydraulic sump filter right below the right side of the seat. It is a fragile plastic filter that is no longer available. Clean it gently. There is also a possibly its sucking air which will cause the hydraulics not to work. One location to check is near the bell housing where the tractor would be split. There is a hose coupling connecting the sump pipe and the pipe to the filter. If the hose is cracked or the clamps are loose then there is a good chance its sucking air there. Does your remotes work? Need some more info on what’s going on. Edited by AC720Man - 25 Oct 2022 at 8:50pm
	1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD

John WV Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Location: bunker hill wv Points: 273	Post Options Post Reply Quote John WV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Oct 2022 at 7:43am
	my 160 by the way i have 2 of them. lift arms moves slow only above 1200 rpm and will not lift much weight. my filter is under the fuel tank. every this you mention i check and the remotes don't work if i could get parts i would over haul the whole system even the block under the seat. both my 160's are 1970

DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21359	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Oct 2022 at 7:28pm
	Doing a little housecleaning and found a book I didn't realize I had. An Official Allis-Chalmers Farm Equipment service manual for models One-Sixty/160 and 6040 tractors. Brand new 40 years old never used.

AC720Man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 10 Oct 2016 Location: Shenandoah, Va Points: 5126	Post Options Post Reply Quote AC720Man Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Oct 2022 at 10:39pm
	John, if Dr Allis is willing to sell that you need to buy that manual. John, lets try something simple. You have had the system open which means that if you haven’t bled the system, air lock could be causing your problem. My lift arms and remotes did not function after I split the tractor to do a engine rebuild. The easiest way I found was to place a hydraulic fitting with a hose long enough to reach into a 5 gallon bucket or suitable container into the top rear remote. Operate the hydraulic lever back and forth until a full amount of hydraulic fluid shoots out of the hose and into the container. Switch to the bottom remote and repeat the process. It only took 2 cycles for mine to shoot out a full stream. Once I got full flow and no air on both remotes all hydraulic functions returned to normal. Lift arms and remotes worked as they should. Make sure your hydraulic fluid is full before and after the procedure. Let me know the results. By the way, you have a One-Sixty which is the earlier model. Filter locations are different versus the 160 that I have which is a newer model. Edited by AC720Man - 26 Oct 2022 at 10:47pm
	1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD

John WV Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Location: bunker hill wv Points: 273	Post Options Post Reply Quote John WV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Oct 2022 at 11:05pm
	ok will do . let you know tomorrow thanks

Fred in Pa Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Hanover Pa. Points: 9210	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fred in Pa Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Oct 2022 at 6:44am
	If I have a customer with a 160 that has hyd. problems i check all filters ,bleed pump at pump ,then put flow rater on pump to see what it is doing first .
	He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.

John WV Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Location: bunker hill wv Points: 273	Post Options Post Reply Quote John WV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Oct 2022 at 10:03am
	AC720Man i did what you suggestion no air i took the plug that you fill hyd. oil in and ran the hose back in the tranmission. had no pressure just a constant flow .I bet that pump is not building pressure.

Fred in Pa Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Hanover Pa. Points: 9210	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fred in Pa Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Oct 2022 at 10:48am
	If you can flow rate the pump then u will know for sure what pump is doing ,if pump is good set flow meter up on remote check pressure and flow ( gallons pre min) , Edited by Fred in Pa - 27 Oct 2022 at 10:51am
	He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.

John WV Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Location: bunker hill wv Points: 273	Post Options Post Reply Quote John WV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Oct 2022 at 12:57pm
	well i put a pressure gage on the remote and only got 600 psi at half throttle and the same at full throttle

John WV Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Location: bunker hill wv Points: 273	Post Options Post Reply Quote John WV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Oct 2022 at 12:59pm
	Fred i'll have to find a flow meter some where. thanks