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    Posted: 03 Sep 2021 at 3:56pm
Just went through Mo/Ks. They were cutting corn that wasn’t even completely turned yet. Still a bunch of green stalks.
What’s the deal?
Tracks on combines , tractor and grain cart.
I’m a little outdated.
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Are you sure were not cutting silage??  Our renter just began cutting his.
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I wondered that but it was mostly turned and I saw the combine and huge grain cart
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The machine the renter uses is actually LARGER than a combine, looks very similar and discharges to a cart they later cross lad into trucks.
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The machine was way in the back. May have been a large chopper.
The grain cart was huge tandem axle with tracks. Tractor was 4x4 articulated IH. Tractor had tracks on all 4

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High moisture shell corn? Maybe they ran out of last years?
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High moisture corn is picked the same time as silage corn is chopped, if there was a graincart in the field and not trucks lined up beside the chopper then it was high moisture corn, probably going to a finish yard or dairy.  Thad were exactly were you at?
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Originally posted by dr p dr p wrote:

High moisture shell corn? Maybe they ran out of last years?

Thanks. That’s something we never did on the farm.
I just did some reading on it.
Further on down the road I saw a few fields where someone had cut a couple rounds around the outside.
No equipment anywhere around these.
Could be for the same purpose.
Fun to learn.
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Originally posted by Kansas99 Kansas99 wrote:

High moisture corn is picked the same time as silage corn is chopped, if there was a graincart in the field and not trucks lined up beside the chopper then it was high moisture corn, probably going to a finish yard or dairy.  Thad were exactly were you at?

On 400 just west of Mo KS line headed west.
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We always cut silage when it was still green
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Pretty much either one is done at black layer on corn.  Usually anything planted in the sand is early and would probably already be getting picked for high moistuer or chopped and some might be too late. 


Here's a couple videos: first is couple gleaners picking high moisture corn and the second is a feedlot by Dodge City thats taking the corn.  I'm familiar with the crew picking corn and I finish my cattle at the yard receiving the corn.  The corn getting picked looks like its almost getting too dry but it's a pita, the video is sped up otherwise watching paint dry would be faster.  THe only thing thats worse out here is cutting Sumac for seed.




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High moisture corn is simply ~30% moisture corn that's rolled and packed into a bunker silo or upright, just like silage.  Best way there is to feed a finish ration it just falls out of favor for steam flaked corn because of the capital that is tied up in a pile of corn that is billed out over the next year, steam flaked is bought as needed then at steam and roll it, not quite as efficient as fed but a lot less operating capital involved, well as long as everyone pays their bill. Wink
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It is probably grain harvest. Usually ADM(local grain merchandiser/processor)will offer a premium (no moisture dock)for a early quantity of early harvested wet corn. ADM water soaks certain corn to begin their specific processes. So it’s a win-win, but ADM only takes wet grain till their quantity is reached, then it’s back to normal business as usual - dry grain that they store.

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We were cutting the last few days just east of your path and the moisture was dry. Lots of other guys were cutting a bit wet. Dont know how much wetter but got a notice from the elevator that their wet bins are full so they are shutting up shop till Tueday. We are getting a toad strangler now so probably just as well
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Originally posted by Adam Stratton Adam Stratton wrote:

We were cutting the last few days just east of your path and the moisture was dry. Lots of other guys were cutting a bit wet. Dont know how much wetter but got a notice from the elevator that their wet bins are full so they are shutting up shop till Tueday. We are getting a toad strangler now so probably just as well

Adam when do you normally cut corn in your area.
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This is pretty normal for us. We planted a couple weeks later this year but not too far off on harvest time. Sometimes weve been almost done by this time, some years not started. Just depends on the season. My father in law south of the area you mentioned cut a week before us. A lot of small time dryland farmers like me will plant a shorter maturity corn (we like about 100-105 day) and hope to get it made before the real dog days and july and August. The big boys with pivots will often go more like 110-120 day corn that promises higher yields. I tried some 108 day this year and it still has green leaves when it was planted a day before the 103 day we picked already... sorry for the long answer to a simple question!
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Big boys are starting around here . 33 to 36 percent moisture. They run it through the dryer. Big Time Operator that my brother used to work for has over 90 thousand acres of corn to harvest. They have to start now if they want to finish. Smaller guys will wait for it to dry down before bringing it in .

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i combined 25%-30% corn with my Gleaner "G" one year for a dairy, they were blowing it into a silo for their cows. i could really feel the extra weight in the truck. 
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Originally posted by Pat the Plumber CIL Pat the Plumber CIL wrote:

Big boys are starting around here . 33 to 36 percent moisture. They run it through the dryer. Big Time Operator that my brother used to work for has over 90 thousand acres of corn to harvest. They have to start now if they want to finish. Smaller guys will wait for it to dry down before bringing it in .

Holy cow that’s a lot of corn. It on this trip I realized just how big some of these farms are.
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Saw a guy just south of Prairie City Ia. combining beans yesterday. Thought they looked ready when I was headed South. Big green boat anchor out there when I headed back home.

Mine are still green as grass, probably won't be ready for three or four weeks yet.
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