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fixer1958 
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Posted: 24 Jul 2021 at 6:23am |
Been slobbering about one for a long time and found this.
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plummerscarin
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Posted: 24 Jul 2021 at 7:11am |
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48hp and no beer fridge. WTH?
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Dusty MI
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Posted: 24 Jul 2021 at 8:49am |
I have a 61" We moved to a new place in the fall of '12. We have a spread out lawn and nothing is square, so in the spring of '13 I bought a new 61" Simplicity Z-turn. It sure makes it nice to mow this yard.
Dusty
Mowing somewhere between 3 to 4 acers.
Edited by Dusty MI - 24 Jul 2021 at 8:50am
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 24 Jul 2021 at 9:03am |
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how about one with TRACKS ? .............. I thought Dave said he had one ?
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Posted: 24 Jul 2021 at 9:32am |
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Yowza! That machine is for people who are SERIOUS about a lawn. Much more serious than I am. LOL.
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john(MI)
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Posted: 24 Jul 2021 at 10:00am |
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I think that Ferris is about the best homeowner mower. Four wheel independent suspension. They are built like a tank, a good solid machine. I was cutting my neighbors yard for a couple of summers. He had a Ferris. When I bought mine I wanted a Ferris but my bank account could only let me get a Simplicity. Ferris makes them but they are a little lighter weight. They still have the four wheel suspension, I've been pleased with mine. If you decide on one ask the parts counter if they have the gater blades. They are thicker than the stock blades and about half the price. The ones for mine are about half the price for them compared to OEM. $68 compared to $125, made by Oregon.
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Calvin Schmidt
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Posted: 24 Jul 2021 at 1:53pm |
Have had a Ferris 2000 61" deck for 10 years! Great mower. Daughter bought a Ferris 800 61" deck last week. 2000 series are considered commercial mowers. The 800 is a slightly stripped down 2100 for large properties
Virtually no problems. Grasshopper doesn't get used anymore. Backup mower is not necessary
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Posted: 24 Jul 2021 at 2:02pm |
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I will stick with my Hustler Super Z 60"
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HD6GTOM
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Posted: 24 Jul 2021 at 8:39pm |
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Buy that and use it to cut hay. Check out Walker brand mowers. Around here they are the best built, most trouble free, easiest to work on mower.
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Posted: 24 Jul 2021 at 9:07pm |
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how about one with TRACKS ? .............. I thought Dave said he had one ? |
Makes my 33 HP Kohler EFI Altoz look positively economical, at $17,100! I won't go any wider than 60", a wider deck scalps too much, and is harder to find a trailer wide enough! Besides, who wants to smell diesel, all day on a mower?
Edited by DiyDave - 25 Jul 2021 at 5:28am
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Posted: 25 Jul 2021 at 1:21am |
I've got a 60" BobCat, fitted with23-10.50-12 Titan ag-tread tires. It's been a good machine, but BobCat's support is just slightly better than nonexistant.
All I want is a replacement deck, as mine is plumb-worn-out. They won't quote me a price on a drop-in... even though there's an assembly number.
Instead, they require that I look up each part in the assembly, request a quote on each one, then buy them all individually, and assemble it myself.
Totally idiotic, considering that a MUNICIPAL or COMMERCIAL customer would buy a half-dozen mowers, and order at least one, if not THREE or even FOUR replacement decks.
Buy a Ferris... or an Altoz... or whatever...but DON'T buy a BobCat.
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Posted: 25 Jul 2021 at 6:03am |
DiyDave wrote:
[QUOTE=steve(ill)]how about one with TRACKS ? .............. I thought Dave said he had one ? |
Makes my 33 HP Kohler EFI Altoz look positively economical, at $17,100! I won't go any wider than 60", a wider deck scalps too much, and is harder to find a trailer wide enough! Besides, who wants to smell diesel, all day on a mower?
If I had that I wouldn't be on it all day like I am now. 3-5 hours about with a 1320 Ford 6' deck depending on how much rain. It does ok just slow. 5300 hours on it. I got it free. Hydrostat quit and the fixit place he took it to wanted 6k to fix it. I got it in a pile of parts. Truck bed was full of parts and the rest on my trailer. Took me about 2 weeks and $500 to puzzle it back together. Had it about 7-8 years. Need to speed this mowing chit up. Got other things to do.
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Posted: 25 Jul 2021 at 5:05pm |
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What, no walk in sleeper?
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Posted: 25 Jul 2021 at 5:39pm |
Don't even know what that means. Code of some kind?
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Posted: 25 Jul 2021 at 6:15pm |
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As in walk in sleeper on a semi,
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Posted: 25 Jul 2021 at 7:39pm |
I'm not even going to guess what it means. Let it die.
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Posted: 25 Jul 2021 at 10:48pm |
DaveKamp wrote:
I've got a 60" BobCat, fitted with23-10.50-12 Titan ag-tread tires. It's been a good machine, but BobCat's support is just slightly better than nonexistant.
All I want is a replacement deck, as mine is plumb-worn-out. They won't quote me a price on a drop-in... even though there's an assembly number.
Instead, they require that I look up each part in the assembly, request a quote on each one, then buy them all individually, and assemble it myself.
Totally idiotic, considering that a MUNICIPAL or COMMERCIAL customer would buy a half-dozen mowers, and order at least one, if not THREE or even FOUR replacement decks.
Buy a Ferris... or an Altoz... or whatever...but DON'T buy a BobCat. I have a 48 and 52 inch deck for Bobcat Leo found out they used a week obsolete drive motors on them, bought one for parts and now I am down to only one drive motor, 2 good decks and an 18 hp briggs
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Posted: 26 Jul 2021 at 6:14am |
Ok, tried to figure out the 'math'... but my pencil and paper says it shoul be able to cut an acre of grass in about 6 minutes... Is that kinda right ?? numbers I used acre is 43560 sqft, about 208 x 208 as a square lot +-... 208/6'= 35 strips to cut 35 x 208 = 7280', so a mile +2000 feet , +-1.5 miles 12mph = 63360' per hr 7280/63360= .1 so about 6-7 minutes
now I'm wondering how long a B with a belly mower would take....
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Posted: 26 Jul 2021 at 7:37am |
jaybmiller wrote:
Ok, tried to figure out the 'math'... but my pencil and paper says it shoul be able to cut an acre of grass in about 6 minutes... Is that kinda right ?? numbers I used acre is 43560 sqft, about 208 x 208 as a square lot +-... 208/6'= 35 strips to cut 35 x 208 = 7280', so a mile +2000 feet , +-1.5 miles 12mph = 63360' per hr 7280/63360= .1 so about 6-7 minutes
now I'm wondering how long a B with a belly mower would take....
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The math works out until the wife plants a flower, a tree and decides to put a decorative rock somewhere and you gotta mow around each one. Then turn around so you don’t throw the grass into the air conditioner. . . . . I’m up to 1 hour trimming with the zero turn then another 2-1/2 with the tractor on my 3-1/2 acre yard. I’m replacing the tractor with a 60” Ferris next week, all my help graduated and moved out so now, time is a little more of an issue.
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Posted: 26 Jul 2021 at 8:09am |
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who cuts grass at 12 MPH ???
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Posted: 26 Jul 2021 at 8:42am |
[/QUOTE] all my help graduated and moved out so now, time is a little more of an issue.
My case exactly.
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Posted: 26 Jul 2021 at 9:15am |
steve(ill) wrote:
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That’s what I was thinking!😳
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Posted: 26 Jul 2021 at 5:30pm |
In bumpy ground, with a wheel ztr, 6 miles per hour is about the limit my kidneys can take. Now, with the Altoz TRX, you can up that to about 8 MPH. Tracks/suspension absorbs the bumps better. Plenty of places, I mow at 10 MPH(max speed of the machine)
Figure 6MPH, in your calculations, and you won't be far off, on time calculations!
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Posted: 27 Jul 2021 at 6:10pm |
When zero turn mowers first came out, a friend of mine, who mows about 5 acres was using a John Deere lawn tractor. His dealer, who had taken on Ferris (I believe they were originally built by Uebler ???) talked him into trying the Ferris Zero turn, which also had a roll bar.
He started mowing out in the open parts of the lawn to get used to it, then decided to try maneuvering around some of the obstacles. He was zipping right along when he got to a tree with a big low limb. He ducked under the limb, but forgot about the roll bar, which didn't make it. Of course, when the mower hit the limb, it threw him ahead and he pushed the handlebars further. He nearly tipped it over backwards !
He bought the mower and loves it. Said he mows in less than half the time.
I bought a gas Ferris for my work crew a few years back and it was tough, pretty trouble free and worked well.
I am hoping to find one, myself, near the end of this mowing season at a reduced price.
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Posted: 27 Jul 2021 at 8:34pm |
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Funny how things change.
First year I had a walk behind. Mowed front one night and back yard the next night.
Second year got a 38" rider with manual transmission. Could mow it all in one night after work.
At five years I got dads 47" JD with a variable speed transmission. Shelved 20 minutes more off time.
At ten years I got 48" JD with hydro. Took another 20 minutes off time.
So what used to take 4 hours now takes a little over an hour. doubt I will make the jump to a ZT with just over an acre to mow but seems all my neighbors have switched already.
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Posted: 27 Jul 2021 at 8:57pm |
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Our first ZTR mower was a Dixon. It was a pretty good mower. Years later, we bought a DIXIE CHOPPER SILVER EAGLE. This thing is awesome! You can mow as fast as you can stay in the seat. Beats the heck out of my neighbors with Bad Boy, John Deere and Kubota. Skaggs, Grass Hopper and XMark are very good mowers too.
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Posted: 27 Jul 2021 at 9:03pm |
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I mow an acre with many obstacles. Cut mow time in half after replacing Simplicity hydro with a zero turn
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Posted: 27 Jul 2021 at 9:06pm |
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I think the mid mount decks are faster than front mount decks. They turn much sharper. I mow with a Jacobsen Turfcat 445G. it has a 72 inch front deck and powered by a Ford 28 hp inline 4 cylinder water cooled engine. It will cut some big stuff. Mows as fast I can stand to be on mower. One of the best buys I ever bought! Tracy
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Posted: 27 Jul 2021 at 10:10pm |
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what ever mower you decide on, make sure it's easy to change blades. i can get down on the ground to change mine, but i have trouble getting back up...it's the age thing! i just hook my crane up to the front now and lift, easier to change the blades then, can do it standing or semi standing up.
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Posted: 28 Jul 2021 at 7:33pm |
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Shameless, on a Walker mower, the front deck tilts up 90°. Blades are right in front of you. If you are careful you can sharpen them right on the mower.
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