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desertjoe
Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13528 |
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Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 9:59am |
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Well,,I had commented on wantin to help a friend out with his forklift but couldn't find the dang thread,,,so,,,here I go again. A good friend has an older Hyster Model RT100 forklift that he was using to move some old cars and trks around on his yard and the engine finally crapped out. I had done a southern engineerin job on the carburator as it was messing up and we could not locate a kit for it so I made an "adapter" from the Hyster manifold to a Carter I had laying around and it worked great till the engine crapped a couple of weeks ago. The engine in forklift is a 6 cylinder gas Silver Diamond Model GRD214. Then he bought what they told him was an Industrial Ford 6 cylinder that would bolt up to the Hyster bellhousing,,SOO I tool that engine home and was gonna get it tuned up and running for him to stick in the forklift. Flash forward,,the engine is out of a dang Ford Pinto or some such and it was locked up and after 2 weeks of the Acetone/Atf,treatment ,it finally broke loose but it has ZERO compression,,,rings prolly stuck really good and since it is NOT an industrial ,,it will not even bolt up to the hyster bellhousing. I convinced him to either overhaul the Hyster engine or find a used replacement somewhere. Does anybody here know if any other engines will interchange since the Hyster's are almost non-existing,,,? Prolly parts for his are gonna be even harder to find as well,,,,,,
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JC-WI
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Well Joe, you remember you were just a good ole sucker sometime back? Here you go.... was back at page 3.
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desertjoe
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JEEEEZE,,JC,,,you mad at me or something,,,,,?
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Boss Man
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Silver diamond makes me think its an International engine. Must be a few of them sitting around
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shameless dude
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i have a good 549 IH V-8 engine i'd sell to put in that!
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JohnColo
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That 549 would would work well at keeping the back end on the ground!
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desertjoe
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OK,,MY GOOD BUDDY,,,,,,you gots my attention now,,,,!!! Is the engine installed now or out of the vehicle? Tell me more, Shameless,,,tell me more,,,,, I did find an exact replacement In Line 6 Cylinder that was on Propane and says in great running condition. It was taken out of a Hyster forklift too,,!! Only'ist thing,,the dang engine is in Scranton, Pa,,,,,,, SAY,,,I have NOT heard anyone talkin bout any moving of tractors, engines in a long time,,,anybody still doing The Allis Express,,,,??
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jaybmiller
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there HAS to ba a zillion inline ford 6's around...used in welders, wood chippers, big water pumps.....yeah, gas but odds are can be converted to propane(maybe later ??). I KNOW there's one 15 miles from me...kid was too lazy to install in HIS forklift, 15-20 years ago. |
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johnkc
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Hi Joe,Is a continental a no go?
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I support the development of hybrid automobiles and alternative fuels as I need DIESEL fuel for my ALLIS CHALMERS!
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Dusty MI
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I've got a 300 six in an '89 E-150. Still use/drive it some.
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Jim.ME
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I'm pretty sure that is an international engine and you will have the easiest swap if you can find another IH engine in that series. A true Ford industrial might work, I don't expect the car engines will without some modifications. As we all know: time, money, a torch and welder can do a lot of things.
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desertjoe
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Well,,from what I've been reading lately,,the Ford inline 6 is out,, as there is no mention of it been used as a replacement for the Hyster. That 6 cylinder in PA would be the best candidate but getting it to here would be a killer. The Hyster owner just needs to get his engine pulled asap to check out the extent of the damage,,but like ole JohnCo says in another post,, the overhaul kits for industrial engines have become so friggin expensive,,it lots better to get a running engine and do a swap out. Hey JohnKc,,it sure good to hear from you,,!! I'm hopin the forklift owner can get the engine pulled on his forklift so we can measure out the bellhousing configuration on the Hyster to see what will interchange,,,? UMMmmm,,,you got one of them in your shed,,,??
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darrel in ND
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Versatile 400 swathers used a ford industrial six cylinder engine. There's a bazillion of them around here. Darrel
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johnkc
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I have 3 continental long blocks for forklifts that have been overhauled.
2, 6 Cyl and 1, 4 cyl I forget the model numbers right now. |
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desertjoe
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Hey JIM.ME,,,,many Thanks for that link, Guy. I didn't see this particular L6 listed as it has "Silver Diamond" cast on the left side of block and the Hyster info tag calls the engine out as a GRD-214 with 214.6 CID,,Bore=3.312, Stroke=4.125, and HP= 82.4. I would expect that most if not all of IH's older L6 engines would share the same bellhousing bolt pattern,,don't you think so,,and maybe even their earlier V8s? Again, Thanks Jim. Hey Darrel,,It good to hear from you too, Buddy,,,!! The wife has been making noises lately that she wants to go see her Momma as she is well along in her years. I kinda dread that LOOOOONG trip for so many reasons mainly for the accomodations like motel rooms with handicap accomodations along the way and even when we get there,,,so we may finally meet up one of these days,,,,,,,,UMMmmm,,,BEFORE the first snow flies,,,,YIKES,,,,!!!!
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desertjoe
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... models has a 3-5/6 inch bore and 4-1/8 inch stroke and develops 82.8 brake horsepower at 3400 r.p.m. ... GRD-214 / GRD-233 General Engine Specifications Missing: The International Harvester Company (IHC) has been building its own proprietary truck engines since the introduction of their first truck in 1907. International tended to use proprietary diesel engines. In the 1970s, IHC built the DVT 573 V-8 diesel of 240 and 260 hp (179 and ... stroke and a 5-inch (130 mm) bore, and produced around 18–20 hp (13–15 ... |
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shameless dude
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there is a hyster forklift at auction this week, www.delpeterson.com
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desertjoe
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Yeah,,Shameless,,I seen that one but,,,I was kinda hopin to run across one a little closer,,like maybe just down the street,,,,,
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Ted J
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Well, one of you could make a road trip......just an ideeer...
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desertjoe
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I have not heard any discussion on anybody moving anything with " THE ALLIS EXPRESS" in the longest,,,,did that very good thing just go away,,??
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Thad in AR.
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They still haven’t delivered my Jeep yet. |
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desertjoe
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Yeah, Thad,,but,,,,but,,,we sha'nt give up so easy,,,I just KNOW ole Shameless is just testin our ,,,,resolve,,,,, I've made him a couple of "deals" that most anybody would of snapped them right up,,,, Every mornin,,I take a look towards the northeast,,,thinkin thet Big Boy Chevy of his be pullin thet trailer of his just chock full of them goodies that he don't NEED no more,,,,, I ain't givin up just yet,,even tho,,it HAS been some time,,,,, SAY,,,maybe he's got the neighbor yard hand pullin thet International Harvestor emgine he offered,,,yep,,thas prolly why,,,,,
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Thad in AR.
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Now that you say it, he does have a big boy and lots of trailers. He could be quite a hotshot driver. He could haul the Jeeps and Chevallis for a test run. Oh I think he’s gonna do quite well. Prolly haul our stuff for free just for thinking of it. I think I’m gonna go hide ole Yeller that way when he pulls in all he will see is my GMC , Jenny’s Jeep and orange tractors. Edited by Thad in AR. - 13 Sep 2020 at 8:01am |
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desertjoe
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Well,,thas a great idea,,,I best go move that dang Ford Ranger and the Ford Explorer over to the neighbor's down the street,,,,can't have him thinkin I gots anything to do with them dang ferds,,,,,,,,,
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