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Rusty Allis 
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Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 6:40pm |
this is just out of curiosity I think it's "garlic mustard" but not sure. the leaves are HUGE (see hand photo for reference) and the best I can describe it is as if the plant itself is "hollow" or basically puffed up like tumbleweed, it seems to have no real trunk (that I can see) they are tall, 10' plus. i'm going to beat them into submission but wondered what the technical name was  
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shameless dude
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Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 12:49am |
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you mention...the stems being hollow. we have plants like that in our creek area, the first year they grow the stems are hollow with big leaves, and the same plant grows the next year the stems are more solid and have small thorns (SHARP) on them. they kill easy with 2-4-D or Roundup.
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Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 12:50am |
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looking at the pic more...do these grow like vines and crawl up on other trees/bushes/things? if they do...kill them fast as they will kill off anything they climb.
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Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 11:08am |
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Is it Kudsu (SP)?
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Herb(GA)
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Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 11:14am |
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'Picture this' is the name of a 'free if limited use' App available for cell phones; not sure if this plant is included in this app. Herb(GA)
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Rusty Allis
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Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 12:10pm |
 shameless dude wrote:
looking at the pic more...do these grow like vines and crawl up on other trees/bushes/things? if they do...kill them fast as they will kill off anything they climb. |
YES!!!! that is exactly what it does. no real trunk to speak of. it seems to wrap around itself and just take off to the sky
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Is it Kudsu (SP)?
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NAILED IT!! that is exactly what it looks like it's evil stuff for sure. i'll give it a hot lunch of some herbicide ASAP. I don't ever recall seeing it on the property, it seems to have come from nowhere. unfortunately we have some trees here that have some serious vines choking them out. I have chased them for years so I want to kill this stuff before it becomes a real issue
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Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 2:14pm |
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Birds surely do a terrific (terrible?) job of spreading seeds... what were once-pristine woods and pastures are now virtually choked with tartarian honeysuckle, buckthorn, wild grape, mulitflora rose, and autumn olive. It doesn't take long. All invasive, non-native miserymakers.
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Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 5:55pm |
Herbicides seem to have little effect, from my experience. But goats LOVE it... 
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Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 10:54pm |
TimCNY wrote:
Birds surely do a terrific (terrible?) job of spreading seeds... what were once-pristine woods and pastures are now virtually choked with tartarian honeysuckle, buckthorn, wild grape, mulitflora rose, and autumn olive. It doesn't take long. All invasive, non-native miserymakers. |
agreed. i'm currently paying the price for not keeping stuff beat back over the past 10-12 years. autumn olive is my nemesis...actually everything you listed is  the property isn't as bad as it was when I first cleared it all those years ago, but noticed that it really needed to be addressed...and should have been 3-4 years ago. but, I caught lazy. seeing that I haven't cut grass all summer due to a bit of a drought I have turned up the wick on beating this stuff back.
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Herbicides seem to have little effect, from my experience. But goats LOVE it... |
i would love to have a fleet of goats to roam around and eat all of it. just not in the cards right now
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Posted: 22 Aug 2020 at 2:40am |
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cut the vine close to the ground, that will kill what is growing right now, it'll prolly take off again, just keep cutting it, can usually yank on the vine and pull it off what ever it's growing on. throw it on the burn pile.
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Posted: 22 Aug 2020 at 11:06am |
Ya know, I ordered a book online that identified all the noxious and invasive biologics here in CA. by regions, when I got it all it had was pictures of our elected politicians.
Edited by Tad Wicks - 22 Aug 2020 at 11:07am
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Posted: 22 Aug 2020 at 3:09pm |
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Hey Tad,,,that right there is a good, good one,,,gonna have to put that one in my little pink book,,,,,, |
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Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 6:33pm |
To kill kudzu, find the point where the vine stem reaches the ground. Take a spade, and stab it into the ground at an angle about 4" away from the stem, going down at a 45-degree angle, severing the root just below the Root Crown.
The root crown is a ball area at top of the root, where the stem (or stems) depart.
cut off the root crown, and the roots will begin to die.
The stem may have seed pods, if you cut the root crown while the seeds are still immature, they will likely be inviable (unable to germinate), and your kudzu problem will start to go away.
It'll require dilligence, as there's probably plenty of root crowns in the area, and many seeds of prior generations waiting to germinate. Taking regular trips through with your spade will get them reduced dramatically, but you'll have to keep doing it 'till no viable seeds are left in the soil.
They don't like high water tables, and they don't survive well in shade, that's why they climb, and choke out other vegetation.
Some herbicides will work well on them, but cutting off and yanking out the root crown does the best.
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Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 10:13pm |
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cut off everything you can.. then use TORDON and reapply yearly when new sprouts come up..... TORDON ( Crossbow) is better than 2-4-D alone or Roundup.
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Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 5:29pm |
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sure looks like a grape vine to me
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Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 5:40pm |
after doing some digging I also found this http://www.state.in.us/dnr/entomolo/files/ep-KudzuAlertSheet.pdfit almost looks like wild grape. they do a comparison shot of them so you can see what the grapes look like vs kudzu
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Posted: 05 Nov 2020 at 1:52pm |
Have you read the feedback from other people? It can be the case that not all plants produce the resin. You need to find out more about this strain. Possibly you will wait for nothing. I would like to grow some plants by myself, but it is not allowed in my place, https://worldcams.tv/united-kingdom/dawlish/marine-parade. So I need to go to the places where I can give it a try.
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Posted: 06 Nov 2020 at 12:18am |
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I cut grape vines off at ground level, chain saw, And then cut the vine off about three feet up. Toss the three foot pieces on the burn pile. If you don't take out that piece and it can reach the ground, it will root and continue to grow. If you want you can pull the vines out of the trees. I have pulled some down and made Honey a couple of wreathes. The best way I have found to get rid of it is to keep it cut down and clear low branches so it can't get to anything to grow on.
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Posted: 06 Nov 2020 at 7:46am |
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I agree, Lou grapevine it is, at least it sure looks like it.
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