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FREEDGUY 
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Posted: 20 Jun 2020 at 5:15pm |
Is it just a "here" thing, or is it more regional ? I'm asking about the lack of the product in this area. A builder was just saying yesterday that the local independent lumber yards (Big C) was having trouble sourcing materials. I didn't give it much thought until today when a customer of mine went to the nearest Menards to order the decking materials for his re-decking project and get the 11% deal(ends tomorrow). He texted me and said the project is on hold because Menards is out of decking boards, don't know when anymore is coming in and won't take any prepaid orders for it until further notice    . Any idea of what's going on with the treated lumber supply ?? I fail to see how the carona can play a factor ??
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thendrix
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Posted: 20 Jun 2020 at 5:47pm |
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Same deal here. Hard to find decking boards. Maybe everybody decided to build a deck while they're stuck at home
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 20 Jun 2020 at 6:00pm |
I bought PT 2 x 4 8- 10- -12 ft long yesterday, plenty of stock....... Deck boards they had no 8 ft.... i needed 6 ft long.. maybe 100 in stock.....i looked on line and our local Menards had sold 12,000 2 x 4 x 8 in the last 30 days........ must be a LOT of decks.
Was going to buy the grandson a 24 inch bike last week... NOPE-- sold out at Wal Mart.. Maybe 6 weeks wait...... you can buy 12 or 16 inch, but no 24 or 26 !
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DMiller
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Posted: 20 Jun 2020 at 6:00pm |
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Part of the Virus response, more are home pay is still coming expenses decreased so repairs and improvements went crazy. Lumber yard here in town cannot keep enough materials on hand, spread that across 48 states and the lumber suppliers cannot deliver fast enough. Truss builder just at Owensville 6 to 9 weeks out for orders not for lack of material but of time to cover the orders.
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Thad in AR.
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Posted: 20 Jun 2020 at 6:50pm |
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Just had a long wait on some PT dog ear fence pickets. I went to pick them up yesterday afternoon and noticed that it looked like a big load of OT material was just received at the lumber yard.
I hope this isn’t going to be an ongoing problem.
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Hubert (Ga)engine7
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Posted: 20 Jun 2020 at 7:29pm |
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Had one guy at church saying that he could not find PT 4x4's to do some repairs on rental property. I bought a few 2x6/12 from a local farm store a number of weeks back for around $9 each, went back 3 weeks ago for some more and they had jumped to around $13. Much better quality and service than I can get at Lowe's or HD though. It should all level out in the next few months.
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 20 Jun 2020 at 8:32pm |
Same here, shortage or out of Pressure treated 2 x materials of course I am trying to build a building. How come? I don't know pipeline empty, covid shut down PT done in Canada cant get into US? All of the above? Hoping we can get materials in 4-5 weeks when trusses are supposed to be ready. Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 21 Jun 2020 at 6:19am
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john(MI)
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Posted: 20 Jun 2020 at 9:58pm |
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The guy I'm talking to to build me a deck says there is no 5/4 stock. It is being caused by covid. The shortage has caused any you can find to be 3 to 4 times more than regular price. He said he couldn't get to my deck until August so the shortage may be gone by then. Otherwise I'm gonna have to use plastic boards. He's doing the neighbors out in the plastic so I guess I'll haveta get nosy and go see how thiers is looking.
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Posted: 20 Jun 2020 at 10:00pm |
 Sugarmaker wrote:
Same here, shortage or out of Pressure treated 2 x materials of course I am truing to build a building. How come? I don't know pipeline empty, covid shut down PT done in Canada cant get into US? All of the above? Hoping we can get materials in 4-5 weeks when trusses are supposed to be ready. Regards, Chris |
Same here Chris. Had a 40x60 planned and having to wait for trusses
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Kiwi
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Posted: 20 Jun 2020 at 10:13pm |
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Hi all it is not just the USA that is having that problem the hardware stores here in New Zealand are flat out trying to keep up with demand .
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Thad in AR.
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Posted: 21 Jun 2020 at 1:45am |
john(MI) wrote:
The guy I'm talking to to build me a deck says there is no 5/4 stock. It is being caused by covid. The shortage has caused any you can find to be 3 to 4 times more than regular price. He said he couldn't get to my deck until August so the shortage may be gone by then. Otherwise I'm gonna have to use plastic boards. He's doing the neighbors out in the plastic so I guess I'll haveta get nosy and go see how thiers is looking.
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Just remember the plastic doesn’t span as far as yellow pine/pt so more joists and different screws. Also very hot on bare feet. Otherwise I like the synthetic deck boards.
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FREEDGUY
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Posted: 21 Jun 2020 at 6:19am |
Thad in AR. wrote:
john(MI) wrote:
The guy I'm talking to to build me a deck says there is no 5/4 stock. It is being caused by covid. The shortage has caused any you can find to be 3 to 4 times more than regular price. He said he couldn't get to my deck until August so the shortage may be gone by then. Otherwise I'm gonna have to use plastic boards. He's doing the neighbors out in the plastic so I guess I'll haveta get nosy and go see how thiers is looking.
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Just remember the plastic doesn’t span as far as yellow pine/pt so more joists and different screws. Also very hot on bare feet.
Otherwise I like the synthetic deck boards. |
Is the "plastic" the same as composite decking? 20 years ago there was some true plastic on the market "here", but it didn't stay around long  . I've put down a descent amount of composite, and as long as the planks are laid 90*'s to the joists, 16" centers are fine, it's when laid on a 45* angle that the spacing needs to be 12" centers. I certainly hope the "snafu" of supply gets over quickly for everyone  . Have a HAPPY FATHERS DAY guys !!
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Posted: 21 Jun 2020 at 6:27am |
Happy Fathers day! I am in wait mode on trusses and the wont be delivered till the rest of the framing materials like pressure treated poles are available which I have not checked on but will check Monday. I plan to use the engineered poles PT laminated bottoms, and finger joint std pine above. They say they are very true and stable. But they are slightly smaller than std 6x6's. I have waited many years to build a building, so I will try to be patient and wait this shortage out. Dont have much choice. Talked to the builder and he has a plan to build the walls with out the bottom skirt boards and then add them later. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 21 Jun 2020 at 7:17am |
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Pressure treated lumber is in short supply in northern NY state. The owner of our local lumber yard told me they were doing about double of what there business plan is. They are taking orders for PT as it comes in, but they can't guarantee a date.
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Posted: 21 Jun 2020 at 7:43am |
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Miller is right. The number of home projects is up significantly due to the lockdown. Our city has processed a huge number of permits for decks, fences and basement finishes. People are bored and getting to those projects they've been putting off. I would venture a guess COVID has also affected the plants that produce these materials that are in short supply just like it did the meat plants
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Posted: 21 Jun 2020 at 8:57am |
John, We have a deck that is not wood, probably composite. We moved here in late 2012, and it had been built a few years before before we moved here. If you wood like you may come and take a look at it.
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Posted: 21 Jun 2020 at 11:53am |
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Thanks Dusty! I have seen the composite(plastic) and think it looks very nice, but the price is pretty steep for that stuff. I figure I won't be living here for too much longer so I was trying to go the cheaper route. I did really like the no screw look of the composite. We are retired so I guess we aren't in any hurry to get this done!
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