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Steve A 
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Posted: 09 Apr 2020 at 6:33am |
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I recently upgraded to a 417 loader with the factory pin bucket. What's the best position to put the bucket in to take it on and off and line things up easily? The book doesn't say. I've had experience with quick attach and the old narrow trip/gravity Kelly's. I built a set of log forks, and it took me a good 10 or 15 minutes to get it lined up when I put the bucket back on.
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JoeM(GA)
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Posted: 09 Apr 2020 at 9:39am |
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The few times I’ve had the bucket off my Ford Industrial, I always set it on a couple of 6’ pieces of phone pole I keep around, anything round and good hard flat ground and it’s easy for me alone to get it back on. I don’t know how heavy your bucket is, mines 700-800 lbs and with a piece of heavy wall pipe I can move it forward/backwards, left and right
With very little effort. If it’s only gonna be off for a repair or such, I just pull into the door of the shop and set it on my pallet jack, then it only takes a couple of minutes to re-attach it
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Steve A
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Posted: 09 Apr 2020 at 10:27am |
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Thanks Joe! I did put it on a couple of 4X4's and used a bar to scoot it around, and a chunk of rod to line the holes up. The arms are easy, however the cylinders are on the bottom--used a couple rubber straps last time to hold them roughly in place. I'm curious if somebody found it easier with the bucket rolled forward when they drop it, or block it at half roll, etc. probably harder to move around side to side that way, but maybe you can line up easier.
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JoeM(GA)
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Posted: 09 Apr 2020 at 10:45am |
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I’ve done it with it flipped over, wasn’t as easy to slide around as it was with the flat bottom.
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Joe(TX)
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Posted: 09 Apr 2020 at 3:15pm |
Here is the adapter used on my dads Massey Ferguson. There are several examples of homemade ones on the web.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 09 Apr 2020 at 3:22pm |
re: it took me a good 10 or 15 minutes to get it lined up
yeesh, I took the bucket off my D-14 loader ONCE and them 10-15 minutes to reattach were NOT 'good'.....
Ok , if, IF, you're only doing it once a year, maybe it's not that bad, but...when I bought the BX23S I said SSQA is a MUST ! man, it is nice to change loader implements in seconds NOT minutes or 1/2 hours......
It's not that hard these days to fab up or buy SSQA mods to any loader. You might consider it....as none of us are getting any younger....
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DanWi
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Posted: 09 Apr 2020 at 4:04pm |
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Once you get the pins in the rigid arms I lift it up and let the bucket swing then run the cylinders out to where they are close and if you have a float position put them in float, should be easy then. If you are going to do it somewhat often either weld handles on your pins or get some pins with handles.
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Dakota Dave
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Posted: 10 Apr 2020 at 9:24am |
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Mine I set on the welder bed on the truck. Set it on the truck take the pressure off and back away. It's high enough that I can see to drive right in and pin back on. The large payloader at the farm we leave the bale fork stuc in a bale. And the bucket on a couple rims with tires. The leading edge of the bucket on the ground and the back up a foot and a half. I just drive in put the two push arm pins in lift it up and it'll swing to get the tilt pin in. It dosent take any longer than fighting with the quick attach on the tractor. It of course is slightly bent from overloading so you usually have to beat it to get the latches latched. It's always much harder to do either if the last guy didn't unhook on level ground.
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Steve A
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Posted: 10 Apr 2020 at 3:16pm |
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Thanks for the ideas gents!
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