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    Posted: 28 Mar 2020 at 10:30pm
Looking to setup a new puller. Looking for an open class tractor with these rules
Model must have starting production in 1960 or older
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ENGINE BLOCK AND CRANKCASE MUST BE SAME LENGTH, HEIGHT, NUMBER OF CYLINDERS, FUEL TYPE AND MAKE AS STOCK

30% OVER RPM

8 MPH MAX, ANY GEAR

WHEELIE BARS REQUIRED, SIDE SHIELDS & SCATTER BLANKET RECOMMENDED

18.4 X 38 MAX – ANY CUT, NO DUALS OR RADIALS

20 IN HIGH & 18 IN MIN DRAWBAR

Would prefer a diesel but if parts are scarce or modifications are limited gas works as well.

NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING FOR ENOUGH POWER TO RUN 8MPH. Right now running stock class 2.5 mph and wasnt to step it up a bit
hi my names dan, I am a young guy. i have a problem, i prefer my tractors orange and my clutches mechanical, thanks for letting me share
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What kind of tractor do uhave
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Diesel engine will never make as much HP as a gas engine unless it is turbocharged, which you cannot do. What is the maximum weight you can haul on your trailer/truck ??
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What is the class weight?
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If you want to pull an A-C, the newest and largest is a D-17. A D-15 fits the 1960 criteria, but would be a very poor choice. Other than that, the usual WC, WD, WD45, B - C, CA and maybe a UC.
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How many cubic inches can the d17 engine be built up to. Ive got a pretty mild 240 in my wd that's competitive in the stock class but want to build an open class tractor
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PaulB Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 2020 at 3:39pm
As Aaron asked What weight class are you looking at?  2500/3000=CA  3000/3500 =WC 4000/6000 =D17  

Edited by PaulB - 29 Mar 2020 at 3:40pm
If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY
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D-17 can pull 4250. I regularly pull 4500 and up. Bare weight of mine with 14.9 x 38's is 3800 lbs.

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U can go over 400 cubes, but the rod ratio gets alittle far out for running 3000 rpms. Stay around 300 and do a lot of air flow work,cam, cam timing,carb work. Get ur head flowing but not to big on valve size. Get manifold flowing good or a header. $$$$$$$ makes hp
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At 30% over RPM limit, the best he could do is about 2400 rpm anyway.  I've heard of 400 being common.  Antique tractor pullers may well be like fishermen though.  Sometimes they use a different tape when they are measuring...
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3000 rpm is easy to make, I do not run mine that high. But the guys that run open usually don't run a govener. WI50 use to run his WC up to 6000 rpm, he ran around 290 cubes.
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I had a D17 stretched to 435 cubes
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My 17 weighs 3640 no driver with 15.5 38s. What bore and stroke are you using to get 435 ci?
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4.7 bore stroke 6.25 strok = 433
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Must b filling the block, sleaves would b very thin. Custom rods!
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