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6080 Thrust Bearing Update

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    Posted: 08 May 2019 at 6:19pm
My good college buddy who is a strong blue man is looking at a 6080 for sale.  I was talking him through some of the quirks of the tractor and discussed the thrust bearing issue.  As such I am having trouble finding in my resources the tractor serial number break when the internal engine updates were made negating the need for the external thrust bearing kit.  Does anyone know what that tractor serial number is?
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Well dont know if you know anything or just listen to the BS about these tractors.Take a little bar and check endplay on crank ,These are great tractors.

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I would put front bearing on any one, no matter #.      MACK
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 210Postin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 May 2019 at 10:08pm
Well just because it has the support on it dont mean all is well have worked on a few that never got maintained .Have three of these tractors and work on others.
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210postin, you are correct. They should be greased and clearances checked every time you change oil.        MACK
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lynn Marshall Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2019 at 9:22am
Maybe these pages can be put in the knowledge section, seems like these questions come up every few months.
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Thanks Lynn.  When I tried searching the forum I somehow missed your post from January.  Thank you for putting it up again.
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Well I should not even say this but Iam going because people seem to be ignorant ,have a 6080 that does nothing but pto work everyday 1800 hours since rebuild .Check endplay on crank with a feeler gauge with every oil change and grease thrust bearing . Have not had to shim anything in 1800 hours of pto work ,moral of the story is take five min and check tractor a feeler gauge is a simple thing to use .Not to be a ass but these are very good tractors so when you feel smart and dont know anything first hand just keep your mouth shut hope I was clear about these tractors have a good day .
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Just who are you ticked at? I don't see anyone bashing these tractors.
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Don't see where I said any thing out of line.       MACK
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Take it easy 210, insults won't get you very far on this forum.
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Additudes like that get ya no where in life! Lol
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Originally posted by 210Postin 210Postin wrote:

Well I should not even say this but Iam going because people seem to be ignorant ,have a 6080 that does nothing but pto work everyday 1800 hours since rebuild .Check endplay on crank with a feeler gauge with every oil change and grease thrust bearing . Have not had to shim anything in 1800 hours of pto work ,moral of the story is take five min and check tractor a feeler gauge is a simple thing to use .Not to be a ass but these are very good tractors so when you feel smart and dont know anything first hand just keep your mouth shut hope I was clear about these tractors have a good day .

Wow this response is just plain out of line.  This is a message board where fellow AC owners discuss anything related to Allis Chalmers equipment.  If you don't like poeple asking questions then simply move on.  Allis released a service bulletin on these tractors so don't act like this is not a common or well known issue with the 6000 series tractors.  
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With 5 6080 s in the family 10000 hrs of CORRECT PTO work won't hurt one at all and yes the oldest one has little over 11000 hrs now 1000 hrs of INCORRECT PTO operation will kill one short and yes all of ours have a bra on the end of story
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Was not talking to you Mack but you hear people run down these tractors ,that know nothing about them .The three I have the 6080 I use everyday has 11800 hrs another has 7200 hrs and the last at 3500 .In the era these tractors came there was nothing out better in my mind .They are just great tractors, so I was not trying to insult anyone you all have a good day
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Nobody on this thread was running down these tractors. Hell, most of us that reply to questions about them own one or more. The thrust bearing issue is a known flaw that even the factory admitted to back in the mid 1980's. Running the PTO does not cause wear to the bearing, it's when the lever is pulled back in the "off" position for prolonged periods of time that wears on that thrust bearing. That's where the "bra" helps in reducing wear. I've seen them fail to the point of taking out the block, and it's not pretty. Please don't insult our (and the factory's) intelligence.

Edited by AllisFreak MN - 11 May 2019 at 7:01am
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That guy has no people talking skills,, gotta wonder how simple things are !   
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We got 2 tractors with 20,000 combined hours and a third with unknown hours if used properly it’s a non issue. On my list of things to worry about in life it’s real low on the list.
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