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    Posted: 13 Apr 2019 at 4:01pm
I put in a new ring gear,clutch, crank seal and rebuilt the oil pump. Assembled and ran, getting drips of oil out of bell housing. Tough to see in bellhousing. Appeared to be crank seal, new seal was felt. I ordered a cork seal and split again. My crank seal is dry, wick on crank is wet. Does anyone offer a new wick or can I eliminate the wick. Pilot bushing is not wet, it is new also.
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I just thought about my comment on eliminating wick, didn't think that one through. How much is to much oil, it is already making a mess in bellhousing.
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Plug the crankshaft hole and use a sealed bearing if you don't want a bit of drip, every once in awhile. My WC is plugged with a sealed bearing.
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Maybe Dick L would know the sealed bearing info for the B & C?
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Originally posted by CTuckerNWIL CTuckerNWIL wrote:

Plug the crankshaft hole and use a sealed bearing if you don't want a bit of drip, every once in awhile. My WC is plugged with a sealed bearing.
 Charlie has it: Although it more than that simple. The C tractor only uses a pilot bushing which a dab of grease will last a long time.  Plug the crank hole. Put a speediSleeve on the spiral groves on the crank. Use a seal housing and seal from the D10/12/14/15 tractors
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It's been a while, but I may have had to bore the flywheel for that bearing, since it just had a bushing in it too. Wacko
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Originally posted by chaskaduo chaskaduo wrote:


Maybe Dick L would know the sealed bearing info for the B & C?
The flywheel would have to be sent to a machine shop to bore it out for a sealed bearing. Not worth the effort. Those bushings will outlast the person now driving the tractor with the wick hole plugged.   
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Is the wick hole pressurized? 1/8 pipe plug is to small. Called around for a pound in plug, no luck. If is not pressurized I might put in epoxy
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If you want to plug the hole,  just insert a tapered cork after pulling the wick out. 



Edited by littlemarv - 13 Apr 2019 at 7:54pm
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Originally posted by Dick L Dick L wrote:

  The flywheel would have to be sent to a machine shop to bore it out for a sealed bearing. Not worth the effort. Those bushings will outlast the person now driving the tractor with the wick hole plugged.   

 I drove to a machine shop every work for day and ran a lathe of some sorts most of the time.
 It didn't cost me anything, but a few minutes of my time after hours Wink
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I put in a cork with a little Indian Head gasket shellack on my B and WC. If you want to replace the bronze pilot bushing and your closer to a case IH dealer it's the same as a Farmall C I believe. I'm 15 min from IH dealer and hour from an Agco dealer.

Edited by oldways - 13 Apr 2019 at 9:15pm
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There might be some details in the shop manual:http://geraldj.networkiowa.com/Trees/Allis-Chalmers-G-B-C-CA-Service.pdf

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Originally posted by CTuckerNWIL CTuckerNWIL wrote:

Originally posted by Dick L Dick L wrote:

  The flywheel would have to be sent to a machine shop to bore it out for a sealed bearing. Not worth the effort. Those bushings will outlast the person now driving the tractor with the wick hole plugged.   


 I drove to a machine shop every work for day and ran a lathe of some sorts most of the time.
 It didn't cost me anything, but a few minutes of my time after hours Wink


Great! I own a custom mold shop started in 1997 that was once a three man shop as well but most people don't.

Went down to a one man and myself when I bought these in 2002.





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Nice setup, I would live in there. Thumbs Up
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The wick is there to lubricate the pilot bushing. It is supposed to leak oil on it. Old school technology. They quit doing this many years ago, and now lubricate with grease. Probably not as effective but less of a mess.
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