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Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 11:09am |
Has anyone ever run across a transmission top like this? 
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savedallis1953
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Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 11:10am |
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This morning s on a 1953 WD
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Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 11:11am |
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I hate spell check, well maybe dislike it a lot.
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Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 12:09pm |
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My 1953 has that cover. See number 144087.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 12:45pm |
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Brian G. NY
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Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 2:55pm |
Your serial number should be on that flat "boss" just below the LH brake spring hole as seen in one of your pictures. That looks like a professionally built top-link bracket but I don't think it is a factory A-C piece. Here are some pictures of real A-C top-link brackets. As can be seen, the threads on the one in the second picture have apparently been stripped making it necessary to replace the studs with bolts with nuts.
Edited by Brian G. NY - 17 Mar 2019 at 3:26pm
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Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 5:15pm |
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PLEASE, guys! Resize your pix. before posting!---Cant see a thing here just some dark corners of something! Perfect size is 640 x 480! Thanks!
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savedallis1953
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Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 8:22pm |
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Thank you Brian, I have some knowledge of the W series but am no expert,though I do have a friend that grew up on Allis W models and is quite knowledgeable about A/C and others as well.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 8:25pm |
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And these items are on WD # 145143, which seems to be close to the end of WD production.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 8:28pm |
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Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 8:29pm |
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Who ever made this top link was really good.
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 9:29pm |
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If a WD it's a late one because it has the curved shifter for the constant mesh trans like the 45's have. Doesn't appear to be a spring hooked in that hole at rear of brakes.Need them springs to keep things in place and prevent wear of shoes.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 10:26pm |
 JK in Pa wrote:
My 1953 has that cover. See number 144087. |
JK,
So, your transmission has those 3 "nubs" sticking up as well? I have never seen that but it is obvious they have something to do with the detent springs. Almost like someone went to extreme measures after having difficulty installing the detent balls and springs from the underside?
It's sure a mystery to me!
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Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 7:44am |
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Thank you for the brake spring tip, I thought something was amiss. I believe a little over 1000 we're manufactured after the one I have. No shifting while the PTO is spinning so I was pondering a disc brake assembly on the shaft for faster F to R and back to F but I bet someone knows the correct way. Love this site.
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Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 7:47am |
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and the detent explanation, makes good sense.
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JK in Pa
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Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 8:45am |
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Yes Brian, just like the one pictured. I always thought it was left over stock from the earlier design and they modified it to save $. The later design has less throw so the detents would have to be moved? I have never compared them but it may have been more complicated than just moving the detent in the rails.
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Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 9:36am |
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I have seen that design a couple of times over the years. I never really paid any attention as to what year the tractor was built that had that 3-nub cover. I have a very late WD45 and it doesn't have it. I'd suggest that at some point (or more than one) in time they had some shift covers that were made wrong (too deep of spring hole for detent ball) and this was a "salvage" process to avoid having to scrap those shift covers?? Just a thought as to why...……..
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Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 1:55pm |
JK in Pa wrote:
Yes Brian, just like the one pictured. I always thought it was left over stock from the earlier design and they modified it to save $. The later design has less throw so the detents would have to be moved? I have never compared them but it may have been more complicated than just moving the detent in the rails. |
OK, so the good Doctor confirms what you guys are saying....there are some out there. I like your theory....it makes sense. I have 3 late model WD-45s and 3 early model (straight shifter) WDs and none have those nubs. The funny part is that his tractor is a fairly late model WD-45 and its not likely there would have been any "left over" covers at that point. Oh well......maybe somebody changed the cover at some point and happened upon one of those oddball units? We will probably never know. It sure was an interesting discussion though!
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Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 3:03pm |
I think JK solved the mystery!
The casting for the curved shifter transmission has a "hump" right where those nubs are. The straight shifter transmission has no hump there. If you look at savedallis' transmission, you will see clearly there is no hump but those nubs stick up in it's place. So.....I would surmise that, like JK says, they used the old castings 'til they were gone but had to make that modification in order to make room for the detent springs.
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Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 3:35pm |
The first picture shows the straight shifter cover, the second picture shows the curved shifter cover.
 
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Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 6:59am |
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I think all the early helical gear transmissions used that cover, late 1952 thru 1953 WD and maybe early WD45. My '53 WD has it but I've never seen a WD45 with one.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 7:08am |
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My Dad's 1953 WD did not have those nubs. It was exactly the same as the other three WD-45's that were on our and my Uncle's farms.
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