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jiminnd 
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 7:23pm |
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Sitting here looking at my indoor outdoor thermometer, 102 degrees difference from inside to out, and then a 25mile per hour wind too. I know there are some with worse, just try to stay in and stay warm and safe.
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 8:30pm |
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Took the next 2 days off. Ain't no seed beans need delivered that bad. Minus 20-40 wind chills depending on where you are.
Edited by SteveM C/IL - 29 Jan 2019 at 8:31pm
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 8:40pm |
 jiminnd wrote:
Sitting here looking at my indoor outdoor thermometer, 102 degrees difference from inside to out, and then a 25mile per hour wind too. I know there are some with worse, just try to stay in and stay warm and safe. |
Wow! We are about 72 degrees delta ( in to out) , but dropping! Throw another log on the fire! Regards, Chris
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DCAC
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 9:27pm |
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Supposed to get close to -30/-35 air temp, wind chill to -60 tonight, highs in the teens below zero tomorrow.
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oldways
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 10:09pm |
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Where are you guys located? Saw on news temps like that in northern states. I'm in Western KY 9° tomorrow for a high. They called off school. Curious what it's like to live where it gets that cold. How deep is the frost line ? How deep do you bury water lines.
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jiminnd
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 10:11pm |
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Just hit -30, wind is going down a little, think I will go to bed under my down comforter and stay until morning. Not as windy tomorrow but high in the -20s.
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john(MI)
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 2:24am |
If these temps continue there probably will be buried pipes bursting. Here in MI the suggested depth is 42". This cold may surpass that is t continues.
Just a reminder to maybe ease some worries. Wind chill is what it feels like on flesh. It does not affect structures or other inanimate objects. Just keep you and all the critters inside as much as possible. We have feral cats and we brought their shelters into the garage. We kick them out for awhile during the day and they'll sit on their straw bales in front of the windows cleaning themselves. I don't understand how that ain't freezing but I guess they are okay. They all put on a pretty good coat of fur this year. The male longhairs have manes.
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cwhit
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 5:16am |
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Treated my work semi to about a 50-50 blend yesterday. Doesn’t have to go very far today but it does have to go. Guess I’ve been in worse. It’s just been a while.
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B26240
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 6:28am |
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It is -35 this am in northern MN ( actual temp) officials are recommending not to breathe deeply when outside to avoid lung damage. They said this is the coldest we have had it in 20 years. I need to fill the wood box today which means starting the tractor, tractor is inside shop (not heated) I will plug it in for a couple of hours and also build a fire in the wood stove. Tractor has straight number one fuel in it so will be ok. This will be my only job for the day.
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Butch(OH)
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 6:32am |
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Our Elkhounds are pretty amazing in cold weather, especially the younger ones. It was zero here last night with a pretty good breeze, the year old female was sleeping outside her dog house on the ground. The older one has a heated pad but wont use it until a good bit below zero. They get to come inside in the morning and after a hour they are begging to go back out. Now rain is a differant deal, you cant drag them out when it is raining.
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truckerfarmer
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 6:34am |
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We are -31 right now with a wind chill of -51 here in eastern South Dakota.
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 6:35am |
The wind and low numbers are heading this-a way. Geez, can't wait! 
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Gary in da UP
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 7:06am |
oldways wrote:
Where are you guys located? Saw on news temps like that in northern states. I'm in Western KY 9° tomorrow for a high. They called off school. Curious what it's like to live where it gets that cold. How deep is the frost line ? How deep do you bury water lines. |
I put a new well in '98 or so ago water lines under drive way were buried 9' frost gauges are installed around the county near state hiway intersections 12 to 13 ' of frost is not unheard of where traffic drives the frost deeper,
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DougS
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 7:27am |
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I was always told to plan for a friost level of 6 feet when I was growing up in Wisconsin. The last I heard, some were trying to get by burying lines 4 feet down. It was a lot colder back then, it seems. Snow cover tends to keep the frost from going so deep. Don’t worry, it takes several weeks of cold weather to drive the frost deep. In your case of 9 degree weather I doubt the frost would go in but a few inches. Local codes usually require that pipes and wires be buried at least 24 inches even in areas where frost isn’t an issue.
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oldways
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 9:08am |
DougS wrote:
I was always told to plan for a friost level of 6 feet when I was growing up in Wisconsin. The last I heard, some were trying to get by burying lines 4 feet down. It was a lot colder back then, it seems. Snow cover tends to keep the frost from going so deep. Don’t worry, it takes several weeks of cold weather to drive the frost deep. In your case of 9 degree weather I doubt the frost would go in but a few inches. Local codes usually require that pipes and wires be buried at least 24 inches even in areas where frost isn’t an issue. |
I'm not worried about it freezing here. I'm a plumber and HVAC guy. We bury lines 36". Just curious what you guys do. I know of at least two lines feeding houses that are exposed crossing ditches on two different farms. People don't want to do anything about it. Crazy.
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oldways
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 9:18am |
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Typical KY weather. It's going to be 60 here Sunday.
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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV
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D17Milo
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 9:58am |
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Some plces here in Iowa there is no mail being delivered today.
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 10:01am |
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Standard practice here to put all water lines 8 ft down. Winters have not been as hard as we used to see for the last 10 years, but still digging them in.
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 10:16am |
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We have had -50 c with the wind for the past two days... Daytime highs of -35c to -40c. School has been cancelled two days in a row now...
Too cold for my liking
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 11:02am |
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 11:24am |
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Water lines here are 10 ft deep. Heat taped and insulated where they come up into house. I don't have a basement the water table is to high. Crslw space walls have 2 in styrofoam glued on it never gets below freezing in crawl space.
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Don(MO)
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 11:28am |
I'm sitting in the house because I closed the shop for today, I know it's not as cold here in West central Mo.as it is North of me but at -06 for the low I'm cold. I know that's not cold to you northern guys but it is to me. So my question to you guys up North is just how cold is to cold for you? lol I'm not going to start a tractor today for "all the gold in Fort Knocks " lmao
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TimCNY
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 11:36am |
I have never understood how birds don't literally lose their feet/legs in this cold... toothpick-thin, I can't imagine a blood supply sufficient to keep them warm let alone able to freely move them. Ditto deer hooves. Just northwest of us, the Tug Hill Plateau is going to get another 3 feet over the next few days. Winter is merciless, depending on where "winter" is. My sister just texted me with something her building manager told her - keep thermostats set at 68 degrees because setting them lower will overwork the boiler/furnace. We always keep ours between 64-66 degrees. Can anyone confirm or refute this? oldways? <--- funny, that's my username on a few other forums. 
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Stan R
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 11:43am |
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Tim: Lowering the setting of a thermostat does not over work the furnace. Think about it, if , the temp is 40F outside and you set the thermostat inside at 41F, the furnace hardly works. But set it at say, 95F, the furnace will work a lot to maintain the temperature. Now regarding safe guarding freezing the pipes in the house, the higher the setting the better as most houses have cold spots and it you have any piping on an outside wall, it is usually more prone to freeze vs being in an inside wall of a house.
Heat loss goes up the greater the differential temperature is between the inside and outside temperature is.
Edited by Stan R - 30 Jan 2019 at 11:43am
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TimCNY
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 12:08pm |
Thanks Stan. It didn't quite set right with me, but there are many "right" things that are counterintuitive so I thought I'd ask. What I texted back to my sister is that it sounded like he was on the payroll of the natural gas supplier lol, similar to what happens when there's an ice storm and trees/powerlines are down, and the price of chainsaws and generators triple. 
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 12:22pm |
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Don for me if it doesn't get above 0* F for the high of the day it's too cold for me to heat the shop. I am retired so it mostly is for "play" Today however I need more firewood moved to the house so will do that. My shop has both wood and gas (propane) heat but will only fire the wood stove for about three hours. I havent worked out there for several days and the temp in there was +7*F before starting the fire. The tractor will start with just plugging it in but I like the idea of having the fuel in tank a little warmer before heading out in - 20's . Job will only take about 10 min. and then tractor will be back inside. I mite be over cautious but when I ran semis I would always bring new fuel filters and one gallon of fuel kept in the cab in case of a jell up problem. Temps like this really become about survival.
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 1:18pm |
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Just got done working outside on the farm. -5 out with a windchill of-27. Could only work 6 1/2 hours. I have carhartt arctic bibs and chore coat , expedition weight poly pro thermals and good gloves and hat. New muck artic boots and wool socks. I still got cold. The horses,ponies,goats and cats were all outside. I can’t believe they didn’t stay in. They acted like it wasn’t a big deal. A few times when I was driving the rhino the wind really gusted and I couldn’t breathe. Top speed was about 12 miles a hour. Any faster and I’d a froze. I don’t know how people can stay out there in the areas that are colder. I just can’t seem to take the cold anymore. I’m glad I’m not in those areas that are real cold. Good thing is I came in and my wife made homemade soup. I’m so blessed and lucky. Everyone stay warm !
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 2:28pm |
Don, I don't blame you a bit for staying in the house! I think it's about -15 here now. The older I get, the more cantankerous I am about having to work in the cold. -24 last night after work and my battery died. Spent the night 31 miles from home. Friend/coworker helped me get a new one and get truck going today. Not going in tonight!
I don't mind doing outside work in the cold if the wind isn't howling but don't like having to fix mechanical things.
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 2:40pm |
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Earlier today, it got to -12F with -30 with 15-20mph wind chill. It’s been a sunny day though & now 2:14pm it’s warmed up to 0F & -16 wind chill. Always bury water lines to 36” minimum. Forecast is calling for 44F by Friday, then 56F Sunday & 60F Monday. Personally, I’d rather see it stay below freezing for at least 7-10 days. Then field’s freeze line gets deeper (18-24”?) which helps break up any soil compaction. Nature’s cold is the best soil ripper. Brother does field tiling & excavation, so he always tells me depth of frost line in our area. He says soil frost line is 9-10” now.
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 6:18pm |
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Just caught a blurb on one of our news stations (FOX 9) to turn down thermostat to 63 degrees, this after reporting that northern MN near Princeton has lost natural gas service. Gas company says working to get them gas hopefully by tomorrow afternoon. A interviewed customer guessing broken pipe. Why does everyone else need to turn down heat unless they are afraid they will not have enough to make it? I don't know maybe I missed something.
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