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Charlie175 
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Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 6:42am |
Ran across this on FB and thought it was neat Guy up in Canada has it
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Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 7:45am |
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Never seen that kind of cab modification before. Or, a loader on a Two-Twenty FWA.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 8:42pm |
That would make a snow mover!!! I would like to see the inside of the cab.
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A-C_220
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 10:02am |
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That is a good looking tractor even with cab and loader. Any idea where up in Canada?
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 10:05am |
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 10:07am |
trying to get more pictures of it
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 10:09am |
Here is the other one before I shrank it
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 10:09am |
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Is there more fwa out there then recorded. Seems like Iv seen posts on how rare they are but seems like a lot randomly show up on forum.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 10:26am |
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Wow does that hour meter have only 1300 hours on it!
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 11:12am |
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Absolutely Mike. Way to many show up. There are several you know have been scrapped, several you will never know about. And they say there were only 100 made. I don't believe it. I have seen more 220 fwa then 4w220s. And there were only 175 of those made, 20 years later.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 11:28am |
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I like it, but I got a different question. Why is the cylinders installed with the rod end down? For speed or to lower the lift capacity to keep from destroying the loader? There is 3 at home and not one is like that. Just wondering
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 1:18pm |
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My guess is because it has hard lines on the inside of the right side arm that run to the front, short hose from there to the cylinders.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 1:26pm |
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My guess is because it has hard lines on the inside of the right side arm that run to the front, short hose from there to the cylinders. |
Interesting theory.....Isn't that kind of like saying the meat is in the middle of the sandwich "because" the bread is on the outside? Meaning, are the cylinders mounted that way "because" it's plumbed that way, or is it plumbed that way because the cylinders are mounted the way they are? I think the original question of is it designed for a specific function is still valid. Or are the loader builders in this case just not too smart?
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 2:09pm |
It makes for a cleaner installation was my point, but your point is received and valid. I should have taken more time to explain my perspective.
Hard lines are easier to make a clean installation than rubber hoses, so they ran hard lines to the front of the right arm, and short hoses to connect to the cylinder, then crossed over to the left side and did the same thing there. Probably also cheaper to run hard lines than rubber hoses, not positive on that though. The alternative (flipping the cylinders) I believe would lead to additional materials (steel or rubber lines) being needed to get down to the connection at the bottom of the loader frame.
I don't believe there is any performance gain or loss by doing it that way, maybe a slight bit because of the extra weight of the cylinder on that end rather than just the rod.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 2:25pm |
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Oil seapage will make less mess ?
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 2:32pm |
waldersha wrote:
It makes for a cleaner installation was my point, but your point is received and valid. I should have taken more time to explain my perspective.
Hard lines are easier to make a clean installation than rubber hoses, so they ran hard lines to the front of the right arm, and short hoses to connect to the cylinder, then crossed over to the left side and did the same thing there. Probably also cheaper to run hard lines than rubber hoses, not positive on that though. The alternative (flipping the cylinders) I believe would lead to additional materials (steel or rubber lines) being needed to get down to the connection at the bottom of the loader frame.
I don't believe there is any performance gain or loss by doing it that way, maybe a slight bit because of the extra weight of the cylinder on that end rather than just the rod.
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Well, except for that KFC chicken breast health food thing once in a while! It's all good. I understand what you mean. To the guy who asked the question, it wouldn't reduce the lift force, as extending the cylinders still lifts the loader, it's just a question of which part of the cylinder moves. I've seen both directions.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 4:26pm |
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Nice to see another one in Canada. Had a trucker from Sask. stop for a tour in November and he used to own one when he farmed. Three that I know of in Ontario including mine. All new here with one still with original owner. Have about 45 accounted for. Having just removed a LaPorte cab, there would have been a lot of work installing a 7000 cab. Would still be noisy!
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 4:45pm |
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also when it rains instead of having water pool up on top of the seal on the cylinder it will run off.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 5:10pm |
Unit3 wrote:
That would make a snow mover!!! I would like to see the inside of the cab.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 5:42pm |
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I like the 7220 FWA, but now I want to see a 8220 FWA.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 5:55pm |
Calvin Schmidt wrote:
Nice to see another one in Canada. Had a trucker from Sask. stop for a tour in November and he used to own one when he farmed. Three that I know of in Ontario including mine. All new here with one still with original owner. Have about 45 accounted for. Having just removed a LaPorte cab, there would have been a lot of work installing a 7000 cab. Would still be noisy! |
Darryl has the first 220FWA Serial# 2223 and highest 220FWA in the registry is Oughtred's is serial #2433, a spread of 210 serial #'s. So they were or were not continuously built on the line?
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 5:58pm |
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Oughtred's has headlights on the side of the grill right?
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 6:05pm |
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Oughtred's has headlights on the side of the grill right? |
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 6:45pm |
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Most loaders have the cylinders that way for removal. That way the cylinders stay with the loader. All the plumbing is on the boom and connects in one location typically on the right hand side. The performance would only differ in the weight of the rod vs the Barrell as stated above.
Edited by wekracer - 29 Jan 2019 at 6:46pm
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 7:11pm |
Gord still has his 220 fwd but hasn't had it running since the 2009 GOTO. I saw 2442 in North Carolina. Looks like A-C made an initial run of 75 or so consecutive serial numbers and then as required after that. I have 9 consecutive numbers in my registry
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 8:25pm |
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Charlie 175 if you could get the serial number for this tractor i would appreciate it. Thanks
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 10:16pm |
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Charlie 175 if you could get the serial number for this tractor i would appreciate it. Thanks |
Dpower, How many you got recorded now ?
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Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 10:48pm |
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Some of the front wheel assists could be after market, such as Mudhogg possibly?
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 12:08am |
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I got what Calvin has for ones with serial numbers. I have pictures of a few that i am trying to get the serial numbers for. Found one the other day that they tried to put a 516 motor in but did not work out.
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Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 12:03pm |
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Dpower an Calvin am I understanding it right. Your keeping track or recording SR nu of fwa 220. That's cool. Did you get get those that popped up over on classifieds
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