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Oldest brother Jim and his grandson Owen scrapping the driveway to the farm. Nice day today to fill in the massive amount of pot holes from all the rain. Dads 6060 that he purchased new in 1981.
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Great looking tractor thanks for posting
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I hope the picture is just a photo shoot to get a pic with the grandson, and not an in action photo. I have never understood why anyone would ever let a child ride on a tractor with an Implement mounted while working. Just one mistake and the consequences can be devastating!
I’m not picking on anyone but tractors can be deadly in seconds.
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Originally posted by Michael Crowe Michael Crowe wrote:

I hope the picture is just a photo shoot to get a pic with the grandson, and not an in action photo. I have never understood why anyone would ever let a child ride on a tractor with an Implement mounted while working. Just one mistake and the consequences can be devastating!
I’m not picking on anyone but tractors can be deadly in seconds.


Well I can give you a few reasons,its a great experience for the child and a great way to get the child interested in something positive in today's world that is filled with lots of bad things.I spent many hrs riding on the toolbox of my dad's WD45 and wouldn't trade those
great memories for anything.Is there a chance the child could get hurt?Sure it is but children get hurt and killed riding school buses,in their parents vehicles,playing sports,
name any activity and you can find some danger in it.Life is a series of risk taking just the way life works trying to  totally insulate a child from any harm or threat results in what we have now a generation of what is commonly called Snowflakes,young folks unprepared to
deal with the realities of the real world.
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Yes sir Gary I couldn't agree more.  I'm sure he's not doing 80 mph down the freeway with it, just taking it easy with the grandkids.  I do it all the time.  Have a lot of memories from my childhood on a tractor.
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i grew up up on a tractor fender ,riding on top of a load of hay , riding in the back of a pickup, no helmets on our bikes , the kids in there protective bubbles these days cant even get out of there own way  
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I had a LOT of seat time on a WD45 toolbox. Im positive that is why I have one today.

Edited by JayIN - 07 Jan 2019 at 9:47am
sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"
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I have a 15 year old who is very capable of running and repairing equipment now because of doing things when he was young that certain individuals thought I shouldn’t have let him do. Photo op give me a break
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Originally posted by Michael Crowe Michael Crowe wrote:

I hope the picture is just a photo shoot to get a pic with the grandson, and not an in action photo. I have never understood why anyone would ever let a child ride on a tractor with an Implement mounted while working. Just one mistake and the consequences can be devastating!
I’m not picking on anyone but tractors can be deadly in seconds.
Great looking picture. Smiles all around. Even as young as he is, the young man will remember it a lifetime,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but, like Michael, I too would like it a lot more if there was a cab on the tractor. We humans can die at any time from anything. I like most of you road with dad on tractor fenders. Road motorcycles and shot guns at very early ages. Very early, and have lived to tell about it, but, lightening can strike at any time, any where.

We have some friends that had an only child. A son that would have been my age had he not been given a tractor ride with his dad. The tractor had a belly mower. Every time they see me, they look at me and wonder, what might have been. Sometimes the sadness of a signal moment, a signal blink of the eye, never completely goes away. Our friends has been forced to revisit, time and again, a dark place in the minds eye for 50 years and counting. 

You can find pictures of me as a youngster riding with my dad.  A picture like this is pure happiness, but it is also just a moment in time. So don't be to hard on Michael for looking past the picture and spotting for dangers that might be lurking around the next corner. Better to do that then spend a life time wondering what might have been. 


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I appreciate everyone’s comments. I got to ride with my grandad on tractors as a little kid in front of his dealership. I was trying to draw the distinction between a tractor ride with no implement and operating a tractor with a mounted Implement, a pto powered Implement being far worse. Holding a child while operating a tractor with an implement and something goes horribly wrong you’ve only got one free hand to bring it under control. Sure it’s fun for the child but the risk is not worth it. My granddad was killed loading a tractor, something he had done thousands of times while had his AC dealership, but this one time something did go wrong and the tractor rolled over and crushed him. His son had to lift the tractor off him. If he’d had a spectator on the seat he’d of been dead too.
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Your grandson will remember you and that moment forever.

He's as safe on that tractor as he is in his own mother's arms.
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Originally posted by Michael Crowe Michael Crowe wrote:

I hope the picture is just a photo shoot to get a pic with the grandson, and not an in action photo. I have never understood why anyone would ever let a child ride on a tractor with an Implement mounted while working. Just one mistake and the consequences can be devastating!
I’m not picking on anyone but tractors can be deadly in seconds.


If you knew how many hours I spent riding on the toolbox of my grandfathers D17 you’ld have a stroke.
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Nice looking 6060. 
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I can appreciate your concern and yes accidents can happen very quickly and unexpectant. All 3 of us boys that have helped dad farm since we were very young. He always taught us safety, especially pto driven machinery. W have raised our sons in the same manor and now our grandchildren. Owen is sitting behind the hydraulic controls and my brothers arm is in front of him operating the blade. Owen knows to sit still or he has to get off and not ride. It’s the rule...as a child he loves to take a ride occasionally if its safe to do so. My brother is in 2nd gear, at idle, maybe 2-3 mph. I will always be grateful to our dad for raising us on the farm, showing us hard work can be enjoyable and yet safe.
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I spent many hours on my grandpas 190 XT sitting on left side of the fuel tank tucked in next to the seat.  I did that starting at about age 8 or 10?  It was great watching my uncle cut and condition hay.  Good experience learning how to drive by watching.  The same uncle taught me how to drive the Massey Harris 44 for raking hay.  I also rode with my dad on a B Farmall and an H Farmall.  He taught me how to plow, disk, and run the baler.  How else are kids on a farm going to learn to do the work?  I knew it was important to listen to grandpa, grandma, uncle, dad, mom or elder. The kids that did not listen did not get to ride with or when older drive.
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I have done the same thing as most older guys on here, with that said please read what's in this link below and then tell Michael he is wrong! If this link is not enough look in your operator's manual you will find the same thing that he posted about! Then ask yourself what will 12 people say in a court room to the family about is a good idea.
I can post more if the need is there.
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20 people are killed every year in horse related accidents,kids die playing sports,riding school buses,swimming,you name any activity someone gets killed doing it.Are you for stopping all those things? Alcohol related vehicle accidents kill thousands and no one really worries to much about driving around.Life has risks.
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Posting an innocent safe picture IMO has now made me feel I shouldn’t have posted it, but for my brothers grandson and his grand dad to enjoy privately. I’d rather live my life having safe fun and not in a glass house. This is not a pto implement of which none of us would never put a child on a tractor using one. We are all aware of the dangers of farming, I’m also aware that every time I strap my grandchildren in their car seat that there is the possibility of someone texting, talking on their cell phone, drunk,or just not paying attention to driving coming towards me. So should I just stay home and be a hermit? Life is full of risks, its how big of risk one takes that gets them in trouble.
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Originally posted by AC720Man AC720Man wrote:

Posting an innocent safe picture IMO has now made me feel I shouldn’t have posted it, but for my brothers grandson and his grand dad to enjoy privately. I’d rather live my life having safe fun and not in a glass house. This is not a pto implement of which none of us would never put a child on a tractor using one. We are all aware of the dangers of farming, I’m also aware that every time I strap my grandchildren in their car seat that there is the possibility of someone texting, talking on their cell phone, drunk,or just not paying attention to driving coming towards me. So should I just stay home and be a hermit? Life is full of risks, its how big of risk one takes that gets them in trouble.


You shouldn’t feel bad you posted a nice pic. A pic of a child learning something and of a nice tractor.   Only one who should feel bad is Crowe. Some kids live in more dangerous surroundings. I spent enough hours on a tractor as a kid that once I was old enough to drive myself it was second nature.

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Thank you for posting a great picture of your family and the family AC 6060 out working! I sure hope this will not discourage you from posting more pictures  with children riding or driving tractors while pulling an implement. Nice looking 6060 and even better picture of the youngster!
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In one split second things can go south in a hurry. Protecting my kids is my first responsibility. Im fortunate that i grew in a high risk environment. My grandfathers and dad taught me how to be safe. My parents put me between their legs when i was being taught to run equipment.

I will not have anyone ride with me when im loading equipment on the trailer or working equipment. To much can go wrong in a hurry that you cant react fast enough to stop what could go wrong.

What if the blade that tractor is pulling hit a tree root and abruptly stopped the tractor. The child lunges forward. Tractor spins down gets a bight and lunges forward. Now the kid lunges back and falls off the tractor and gets drug up in the blade. Micheal Crowe is correct in making a comment for the wellness of the child. The child has no clue how quick can hit the fan

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I went and looked at tractor for sale once.  Priced way low.  The old fella selling said he wanted "to get out of it because of bad memories".  Grandson fell off and was rolled over.  The old guy was badly depressed and said his daughter seldom comes around the farm anymore because of it and he feels like he lost a daughter as well.  Said he's wished a thousand times it could of been him instead.  I think if that happened to my grandson and I told my daughter that I did it a 100 times when I was a kid, she'd spit in my face.
I didn't buy that tractor but that discussion stays with me all the time. I do give rides but not when I'm working it and I also have a belt that straps around me and the kid....where the kid goes, I go.  Alot of times these accidents happen with a driver who is a visitor to the farm and unfamiliar with the tractor. I always say they can drive it after I get it out in the field but never let them have a rider.....they have enough on their hands just learning the tractor.   You can't be too safe. 
I say kudos to AC720 for posting a great fun pic and kudos to Michael for calling out the safety concern.....regardless of how many hours you logged as a kid, this post alone may very well in fact give all of us that one moment pause to think safety in the future when we climb aboard.
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By the time my daughter was 5-6, she was driven the tractor in the hay field, while my 10 year old son stack the hay and my wife and I pick it up. She ended up on a almost full ride to college as a pole vaulter. Now you are talking about taking a risk on ever vault.
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Guys, my apologies to all who were offended; that was certainly not my intent but clearly it happened.
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Thank you Michael. I can recall two accidents in my area that killed a 10 year old girl and a 6 year old boy. I give my grandkids tractor rides. That is a ride only. I have hurt some little feelings by saying NO when I am working with tractor but, I sleep ok at night. I have had two tractor accidents. One should have killed me but, I lived thru it with only a busted hip. I was doing a thing I have done all my life but,no more. It only takes a blink of an eye to have something bad to happen. Thanks again for your reminder of safety. Have a great day. Gary
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Nice tractor. I love the 6000 series. Also I see nothing wrong with the kid riding while grading the driveway. If you were doing some type of production work with PTO operates equipment I might think differently. Depending on the child’s age I feel there is different levels of exposure. I have let my kids ride while working the tractor. I go slower and make sure they are holding on. They have to learn somehow. They can’t watch from the porch and then one day you turn then loose to learn on their own . That would be a good way to get them hurt. My youngest is 11 and now I’m the one riding on the fender. Of course I wait until we are out in the open and make him go at a reduced speed. But I feel much safer knowing that he is getting instructional time now . Post like this is why I hesitate to put pictures on here. I posted a picture once of my wife’s 4h group and I pulled them in a parade. I had sides on the trailer and made everyone sit down while moving. We stopped and parked and I got off and took a picture. People were standing on the trailer. And someone on here called me out and said I needed to make everyone sit down. Of course I pointed out the fact the I was parked and there wasn’t even anyone on the tractor in the picture.
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AC720Man; I want to give you a BIG THANK YOU for your posting. I gave it 5 Stars, more if I could. The picture turned out great. The sun coming in from the far side of the tractor. Hollywood movie directors live for back lighting like this. It shows the pride of the tractor owner and the joy of the youngster casting out a wave. This picture will stay with him and be on a picture broad at his high school graduation party.

 It really doesn't matter what side of the fence you come down on. It shows who we were as kids, who we are now as adults, and who just might carry on in our foot steps someday. It shows tomorrows dreams and all that we hold dear today. It teaches us to be mindful of the dangers that we face and to pass along the respect that goes with the jobs we do. I have read all of the messages and revisited again and again the picture. I see something new in it every time. Truly one for the ages. Be proud of it.     


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Going to need it to move snow this weekend!
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Originally posted by Charlie175 Charlie175 wrote:

Going to need it to move snow this weekend!


How much have you heard we're going to get? I leave the blade on the Oliver 1365 4WD all the
time anyway and put a half way cab on the 185 to feed with so I guess I'm ready.
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