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Agri Fab Lawn sweeper question

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    Posted: 31 May 2018 at 5:07pm
Anybody use one of these. I got way behind on mowing with rains close together and borrowed the neighbors lawn sweeper. It don't work worth a hoot.
 It sat in his shed for the last 20 years or so and the height adjustment was frozen, so I cut the old bolt off and found a replacement carriage bolt and a nice aluminum hadle that was tapped to fit the bolt. I can now adjust the height anywhere I want.
 The problem seems to be clearance between the brushes and the housing. It's darn near a half inch and there is no adjustment. The brushes aren't totally wore out either. They measure 3 and 7/8 to 3 and 15/16 and according to all I have found are supposed to be 4 inch.
 I'm about ready to build me an inner liner for it to close up the gap so a 4 inch brush would nearly touch.
 Anybody got one of these, that works, that can tell me what the clearance should be?
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they are for really dry grass only! I've used several different brands of them, the cheapest of them all worked the best, but don't remember the name of it. and really...the best are the suction type that has it's own engine.
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I've been doing nothing but dry grass, some is windrowed a little thick, but still dry. i can make 4 or 6 passes in the same heavy grass area before I get 3/4 of it, and I have to stop and shove the grass back in the bag or it just piles up in front and gets swept back out on the ground.
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On an old Cdn farm TV show, a guy put 2 eye bolts on his riders deck, then slid a pole through them, then pinned it on, to the pole he tied an 8 by10 (?) tarp. Then mows the lawn...grass flies onto the tarp. when it's full, he drives to the compost area then backs up to unload the tarp.....hopefully you get the idea, I thought it was slick and frugal ! Providing you don't have a lot of obstacles like trees, it should work great.
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you need to go faster if it just piling up on the front
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Charlie, I got one of those things And would not be without it.  I use it mainly for leaves in the fall.  However I been in shoes like yours and used it when the dry grass built up on the top of the lawn.  Wouldn't be without it.

I don't know, it should be a one pass pick up and get just about all the little clippings.

It will not throw the grass or leaves all the way to the back of the hopper, but when you dump it seems to be quite a load.  This one will also pick up freshly cut grass.

It is now stored up in the loft in the barn and I will put it on my things to do today and give you a shout back.

I will look around for the book.  There is an optimum depth setting (how far the brushes sweep down into the stand of grass that is left)  recommended.  I have z notch cut in my height adjustment, so I have not looked that up since new.
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As Shameless said you need to be in road gear and flying as fast as you can while sweeping anything other than dried brown clippings.  Dried grass weighs less and thus you can run it slower to sweep it.
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I have one and it works OK if the clippings are dry and you go pretty fast. it leaves streaks if the clippings are real thick so I go east to west and sweep again on a 45 deg angle if the grass is windrowed its to thick for it to pickup clean. my yard is pretty big so I have to dump at both ends
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Not so hot up there this am.

Length of brushes - If you measure from the center of the shaft to the end of the bristles, 5" on the nose.

Clearance between housing/shroud and end of bristles.  Where the brushes enter the housing, it is right at 1/4 inch.

About half way through the sweep in the housing, right at 3/8 inch.

As the brush passes the half way mark thru/under the housing/shield, the opening increases a bunch until like maybe 3 inches when the bristles clear.

i did not find the book so can't give you any guidance on how far the bristles are supposed to sweep down into the standing grass as they make the pick up.  I can tell you for sure that the bristles have to sweep down some into the surface of the grass tops.  Sorry but the thing is in the loft and I am not that interjetic to hoist it down and hook it to the lawn tractor.

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I read the book online and set it a half inch below the top of the grass as the book says.
 I do have near a half inch clearance at the bottom though
I ll measure to center of shaft and compare. I'm sure the clearance is a big part of the problem.
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Thanks for looking Dave.
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I have one and had the same problem.  Ended up being a stiffener bar across the front of the catcher.  It allowed it to arch down in front of the brushes and not let anything in.
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