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    Posted: 28 Feb 2017 at 9:33am
I'm looking for a good, simple way for water injection on 210 about 500 hp. Not wanting to spend a small fortune and wanting to use electric pump. Any tips or advice on setup would be appreciated. Thanks
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Windshield washer fluid bottle. I got mine from like a mid 90's Grand Prix. It worked real well. And I could hide it easy too.
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What did you use for nozzle?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Shawn PA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb 2017 at 12:43pm
I drilled and threaded into the air tube before the turbo. And put a small ball valve in it and used that to regulate the washer fluid. Dr. Allis told me how to get the right flow. I think it was 12oz in 30 seconds maybe ?
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Do you want to spray in water before or after the turbo or both? How many ounces in 15 seconds?
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I was thinking after turbo. Not sure about the amount?
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Starter motor 12v hooked unto a high pressure washer pump include an inline filter ,buy an atomizer nozzle out of a sprayer book ,higher pressure with smaller nozzle will yield more power. I used to have a manual button on my throttle so if you were coming under just let go . 500-1000 psi range
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That sounds pretty simple. Is most people spraying water with a little water soluble oil mixture?
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These work well. Self contained tank, pump and 12VDC motor. I would use Simpson nozzles.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200329758_200329758
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Okay thanks I'll check that out. I'm thinking an adjustable boost switch too?
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You could use a boost switch. I've always been a fan of a switch at the very end of the throttle stroke. It's simple and the driver has control that way. If the throttle is wide open the water is on - nothing to think about. An Allis push button switch like what's used to start the engine works well.    
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That's a good ideal! Just water?
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Put a little water soluble oil in with the water - not mandatory, but probably better for the pump.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tbran Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 11:25pm
any one remember the Harrison system? Used standby pressure from a hyd pump to pressurize a hydraulic cylinder filled with water on the base side ,  A solenoid turned the pressure on to the rod end this pushing out the water at what ever pressure the relief was set at on the hyd valve.  The water was fed to a 1/4 braid hose to six nozzles inserted into 6 drilled and threaded holes in the intercooler lining up with the intake ports.  Simple  .    
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Okay thanks for the help guys!
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