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M4 prime mover

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    Posted: 29 Nov 2016 at 6:03pm
Auction time has an allis chalmers M4 prime mover coming up for auction. I never knew that Allis made such an animal. It has a 4 cylinder, 2 stroke detroit in it, it rides on rubber tracks, has a fifth wheel plate, air for semi trailers, two pintle hitches, and a big ole winch on it. I wonder what it has for a transmission? Anyone know? Check it out; it's pretty cool. Also referred to as a sand hog. Darrel
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Long ago jus Outside of Rolla MO an old fella had a scrap yard and had to have had a dozen of these sitting along I-44. Back in the 70's he passed away and they all disappeared.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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I now have another allis item on my Christmas list. Darrel
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there was one at Hutch Darrell
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if'n you buy one of them, i'll hafta add another water line to the machine! 
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I thought they had a gas motor in them?
Heavy at 30,000+ lbs.

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What's another water line going to do. I think you already got the aquafer sucked dry. I suspect that the next step may be to run a line from the Missouri River. Darrel
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Originally posted by Charlie175 Charlie175 wrote:

I thought they had a gas motor in them?
Heavy at 30,000+ lbs.



I am a little confused, too, Charlie. Son was doing some looking at them on the Internet, and it said that they have a Waukesha gas engine in them. I suspect that they made them either way. Darrel
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Data Sheet

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3 Speed with a high and low range

The diesel may have been added later in life
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me thinks Cody gots to ride in the one at Hutch
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Allis Chalmers manufactured a M6 prime mover as well. It weighted 76000 LBS and was powered by 2 Waukesha 6 cylinder gasoline engines 190 HP each. Top speed 21 mph. Designed to tow heavy artillery such as 8 inch or 240mm M1 howitzer's. How would you like to have them rumble through your neighborhood ?
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Originally posted by caledonian caledonian wrote:

Allis Chalmers manufactured a M6 prime mover as well. It weighted 76000 LBS and was powered by 2 Waukesha 6 cylinder gasoline engines 190 HP each. Top speed 21 mph. Designed to tow heavy artillery such as 8 inch or 240mm M1 howitzer's. How would you like to have them rumble through your neighborhood ?

Not MY neighborhood, but Brawltimore could use a few of 'em...Wink
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Wow! Allis did make some pretty awesome stuff. Darrel
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The M4 and M6 look as modern as tomorrow, great design from 70 plus years ago
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sooooo....who owns the one that was at Hutch?
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Yeah i have my eye on it but i already bought
A 16b and a 300 horse tub grinder this year.
Rebuilding tub grinder currently and Ok. Is
A ways from Ga. For trucking so i'll have to
Stand down on this one but it would pull my
Grinder nicely on off road jobs.
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Thanks for posting I saw 1 in a military museum once.
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Does anyone know why the one on AuctionTime looks so much differant.It doesn't really look like the same machine.I think even the motor is in a complete differant location.
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Someone took the M4 chassis and redid the top configuration to suit what they needed
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I need help finding this on auction time
great-grandpa's wc with picker, 20/35, speed patrol, uc, m crawler, 620, 653 dozer d21 d17 d19
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Originally posted by Bob (IN) Bob (IN) wrote:

I need help finding this on auction time

once you get onto auction times website, the first thing coming up should be construction equipment, followed by the most popular brands listed, then below the brand names is "more". Click on that, and many more brand names will pop up; one being allis chalmers. Click on allis chalmers, and it should be right there. Darrel
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As said, gas engine from the factory.... post war these were sold a surplus to mining/logging/construction , were repowered with everything under the sun, chopped up and welded on and are now far from what they were. An awesome machine!, there are several restored ones in the central US, and are very expensive to restore to factory condition.

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If you search on youtube the one in Nebraska came from the Chambers NE phone company. they used it back in the day to install telephone lines. They repowered it with a cummins and it got sold to a local kid there who posted videos on youtube of him driving it.
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Here ya go Shameless. It was an impressive machine.
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Be danged, Cody did get a ride in it. Darrel
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Thanks Tim! that is a cool machine!
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