8070 experimental

This is a great auction coming up.  This family has an exceptional amount of fine equipment.  The second tractor on the list say's it's an "8070 experimental".  Does anyone here know what made it different?  What were they doing on it that was experimental.  I have seen photos of some that had an extended front end for a different engine.  This one looks like a normal front end.  Possibly someone has been there and knows?

That sure is a bunch of nice looking stuff. 

Fanetti?

There were 4 8095 proto types built using Komatsu engines.  These were tested at the Allis proving grounds and were ready for production when Allis was sold Duetz.  These would've been the first 200+ HP FWA tractors on the market, but Duetz decided not to build them.  The tractors were dismantled and the engines were sent back to Komatsu.  The tractors ended up being sold for parts with 1 having an Allis engine installed which shortened the tractor back to 8070 wheel base, and 2 of the other 3 ending up with (I think) Cummins engines and being used for farming by the Hunley (spelling?) family.  I'm not where the 4th ended up.  The tractor in the Fenetti collection was at the Orange Spectacular (along with the last tractor off of the assembly line) in 2003 and I think the serial number was stamped like 8095X or something like that.

I wonder if any of those tractors will ever see the field?  Anyone want to make guess what that 8070 experimental will bring?

i'm excited to see what the 6070 brings. it is amazing what shows up in collections. just wish calling dibs would be enough to bring a few of those beauties home

If that's an experimental 8070. Why would it have a serial number of 1600 which would be in the middle of the 8070 run ? Maybe that is when the 8095 project was started ? Without the extension of the frame and the sheet metal you really have nothing. Hunleys have the long frame, and the komotsu motor in it. As far as l know. No one got any of the transmission that was coming out in the 8095. Mark would know more then any of us on here.

ILGLEANER wrote: If that's an experimental 8070. Why would it have a serial number of 1600 which would be in the middle of the 8070 run ? Maybe that is when the 8095 project was started ? Without the extension of the frame and the sheet metal you really have nothing. Hunleys have the long frame, and the komotsu motor in it. As far as l know. No one got any of the transmission that was coming out in the 8095. Mark would know more then any of us on here.

When Don passed away OAN had a article about the collection, it said that the rear end, transmission and cab were well used from the testing so he put stuff off an 8070 on it. I think the article said he kept the pieces but not for sure. The only thing left on that tractor is the front end and tires.

Seen it at hutch show in 2003 it's just a normal 8070 with a 8095 front axle stuffed under it that they found laying around some where.. It's a $30,000 tractor with well we will find out how much the axle is worth lol.. I'd he had the rest of the parts you would think they would sell with it.. In my eye it's just a 8095 replica..

I'm not sure what that tractor is.  The FWA axle isn't in the normal 8070 location, but that's about all I can tell from the photo.  People have moved the FWA forward on the stock tractors.  We did have some 8070 test FWD tractors, but their axles were in stock locations.  It could be parts of an 8095 prototype, but their frames were built longer (no extension) and the axles were set back more than that tractor.   

If I remember right, we ran the test 8070 FWA tractors longer and didn't release that option with the original 8000 release.  Could be one of those test tractors.

One thing for sure, we never made up decals that said "Experimental" on them, so hard telling what all that tractor is pieced together from.  

Go to machinery Pete he is interveiwing Fanettis farm manager he talks about all of the tractors.

Yes, the FWA was heavier than on the other 8000 Series.  The 8095 (really 9025 ) would have been PD only tractors using the tranny developed for the 8550/4W305.  I went back and looked at the pictures again-------------this tractor has a PS so it was not an 8095 prototype

Jim we have a late 8070 with the heavy final drives and the same factory 42 cast wheel centers I think there was a serial number break for the final drives. Ours also have longer fram along the motor and the front axle is moved 18" forward.. Looks factory

The 8095 prototypes had the 7080 and earlier 8070 final drives---------nothing special about them.

So just as l thought. Its nothing more then an 8070. The front axle location means absolutely nothing. Have seen several moved forward.