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modirt ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Jul 2018 Location: Missouri Points: 7064 |
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Two old farm items. One.....what we called an elevator.....drag chain with cross pieces.......used to put ear corn into a crib and small square hay bales into a barn loft. Brands can remember were Kewaunee, Owatonna, John Deere? Maybe others? Any good working models remaining? Second: Wire frame corn cribs. Look like a grain bin, but sides made of wire. Used to store ear corn. Still out there? |
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WF owner ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 May 2013 Location: Bombay NY Points: 4556 |
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The Amish in our area still use the wire corn cribs.
Little Giant elevators were popular in our area.
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Darrell G (MN) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Green Isle MN Points: 1496 |
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We just has an Allis Chalmers elevator donated to our club Upper Midwest A/C Club, we restored it and used it at our 2022 show to move wheat.
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Lars(wi) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Permian Basin Points: 7036 |
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The farther north and east in dairy country you go, you will more than likely find ear corn bins.
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 30491 |
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A few are still in place in MO, especially around Dairy country south and west of Jefferson City
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JoeO(CMO) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Cent Missouri Points: 2694 |
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Two chains with paddles, used for ear corn, baled hay. I see a few folks use them for firewood.
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DiyDave ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 51235 |
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Darwin W. Kurtz ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Location: Westphalia, KS Points: 4861 |
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CASE elevators were popular around here. You folded the sides down flat for bales, folded them up for grain, slanted them for ear corn, had a big heavy ear corn hopper attachment that you could back a wagon up to and open the end gate
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plummerscarin ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 22 Jun 2015 Location: ia Points: 3356 |
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2 wire cribs here. Wood tunnel goes up the center. Remember watching them get filled when I was little. They need new floors now. Time and varmints have not been kind. My accountant wants to relocate one and put back in to service or feeding stock and selling squirrel corn
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 30491 |
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Getting more for squirrel corn than can for combined corn!!!
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plummerscarin ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 22 Jun 2015 Location: ia Points: 3356 |
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You got that right!! Have sold shell corn to people feeding deer in town.
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modirt ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Jul 2018 Location: Missouri Points: 7064 |
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My guess is a wire corn crib would be easier to find than working elevators. Did not know Case, Allis, etc, made them. Thought most would have been short line. Ours was a Kewaunee. It had the fold down feed auger. Prior to installed a hoist on the grain truck, we had a ground hoist. Would raise front axle off the ground about 3 or 4 feet. Raise feed auger on the elevator. Drive thru hoist, lower feed auger, back up truck and let it dump. First half pretty easy, 2nd half required a kid (me) with scoop shovel to get last of it out. Rise and repeat. The good old days.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11525 |
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We have always used this style of elevator, and have a wire frame crib. I no longer use the crib, we didn't build the foundation correctly and it got undermined by woodchucks so bad it broke up. Ended up pooling water, rotting the corn, just not convenient at all, I use a combine and solid bin now.
We had a Deere elevator when I was a kid. When it wore out and rotted out we got a New Idea. I almost died on that New Idea, no exaggeration, but that's a different story. We bought a longer one, at the time Mighty Handy had bought out New Idea. I'm not sure, this was probably about 20 years ago. This fall, I was too efficient. I like to take it down and park it away from the barn when we're done with hay, because it's sort of in the way for cleaning the pens, and water can collect in the bottom of it and rust. Typically don't get around to it for a while. This year, I was on the ball and took it down to the area it gets parked in the off season. Huge wind storm came through and knocked a tree down on it and wrecked 2 or 3 sections. Dealer said Mighty Handy doesn't make them anymore, just no demand. He also told me that when word got out that they weren't making them, an Iodine mine in Oklahoma (I think) came to the factory and bought everything they had because they used them. So. . . if anyone has a New Idea or Mighty Handy elevator around, I sure could use a couple sections!!!
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allisorange ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Mar 2010 Location: perkins, michig Points: 377 |
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If you were close to Michigan that I would sell You. Its a Harvey with the fold up sides. Works well and is under cover. J Carlson
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11525 |
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I'm in Michigan. How long is your elevator?
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11525 |
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Oh wow, you're in the UP! That'd be a sight to be pulling one across Mighty Mac!
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Dennis J OPKs ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Overland Park, Points: 412 |
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Another mfg. of elevators, found mostly in eastern NE. & western IA. was Valley Mfg. out of Valley NE. They are now Valmont Industries & have gone on to bigger and better things. In the old days it was elevators & irrigation equipment. They made a good product, we had a 52 ft one used for ear corn, soybeans & hay. Needed all of the length to reach top of the corn crib. Was powered by a 15 h.p. Briggs motor and worked very well.
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tadams(OH) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 9980 |
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Wire cribs are still all around Ohio & I am sure if you attended auctions around here there is still elevators
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ac hunter ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jan 2011 Location: OHIO Points: 972 |
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I remember a dairy farmer not far from us using what I recall as a John Deere elevator to fill 3 concrete stave silos around the late '50's - early '60's. Was cranked up pretty steep and was an unusually long elevator but saw it in use once and sitting ready to use several times. Not sure what the logic was over a blower.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11525 |
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Dad used to do the same thing. His "logic" was not enough HP tractor left over to operate a blower. That, and multiple uses of one piece of equipment, while times were lean. I don't remember this, we used a blower in my earliest memories. Our Deere elevator was 60 feet, cranked up to reach a 40 foot silo. Probably why the bottom was all rotted out later in life.
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AllisFreak MN ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Dec 2009 Location: Minnesota Points: 1533 |
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We had a Kelly-Ryan when I was a kid. It was old then and that was a long time ago. It always worked fine. It got tipped over by the wind once, we stood her back up and straightened a little sheet metal and it still worked.
Edited by AllisFreak MN - 19 Jan 2023 at 5:44pm |
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'49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2
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WF owner ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 May 2013 Location: Bombay NY Points: 4556 |
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My grandfather had a case like you describe. I never saw it used for anything other than hay. Since they had narrow paddles only in the middle, they didn't work very well for hay if it was very steep. I remember when we were kids, we would slide down it from the hay mow. If the belt tighter (that engaged the motor) was loose, we could get the chain to turn backwards. When I think back, we are all very lucky we survived some of the stuff we did as kids!
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DaveKamp ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5715 |
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Okay, so... the reason for running a silage elevator, rather than a blower, was about PTO horsepower at a given speed. My Grandfather ran a silage blower off his WC, and later, off his D17. For a little while, When I was very young, He HAD an earlier JD twin (I THINK it might've been a G) which I think he wound up with as result of a neighbor/friend passing away. I asked him many years later about it, and his explanation was to the effect that, in a macro sense, it was good at a few things, but from a performance aspect, was very weak in others. The one thing he specifically noted, was that the 2-cylinder engine could not run a blower hard enough to fill a high silo lift, but the WC 'could do it all day'. I suspect it had to do with governed RPM, belt pulley diameters, and HP/HRs/Gallon at full governed speed. Note that A blower, wether loaded with silage or not, draws a considerable amount of input horsepower because it's moving air through a rather lossy tube. If this actually WAS the case (and I don't have any way to test/prove either way, but would bring my WD to try it), then it would stand to reason why one would opt for an elevator instead... and JD would likely have been very committed to getting mechanical elevators out to deal with that situation. An elevator, in comparison to a blower, is probably going to come out much more energy-efficient for loading the silo, but it certainly won't be as fast, and it will require considerably more maintenance to keep it operational. The popularity of blowers for silage is very significantly on SPEED... because, unlike what most non-agriculturistic people generalize, farming is NOT a leisurely paced occupation.
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11525 |
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We had a Deere 630, it did fine on a blower. However, if yours was in fact a G, a 630 is close to 20 HP more. And our silo was only 40 feet, not as tall as some. And. . . maybe we took it a little easier because that's all our wagons could reliably handle. But yeah, in any case, when it's time to fill silo, it's time to GO.
I am so 100% absolutely thrilled to back into the bunker, dump, and go!
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WF owner ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 May 2013 Location: Bombay NY Points: 4556 |
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A friend has a 105' high silo. That would take quite an elevator!
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11525 |
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Darwin W. Kurtz ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Location: Westphalia, KS Points: 4861 |
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So we're talking wire cribs and ear corn elevators.......are there any good pickers out there
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11525 |
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I gave mine away a few months ago! Yes, gave, free. Was a New Idea 2 row.
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Les Kerf ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 08 May 2020 Location: Idaho Points: 745 |
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My late Father-in-law grew up on a farm near Meridian, Idaho; he told of a neighbor's John Deere A that couldn't handle a certain blower so his Dad put their new Allis CA on it which handled it just fine. I have no clue what size the blower was. I own a hay/grain elevator that we use for hay bales and firewood. Absolutely no corn grown outside of a small garden here in northern Idaho, growing season is much too short. |
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13611 |
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i've got a couple of them, a Stanhoist and another i'm not sure what brand.
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