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thendrix
Orange Level Joined: 04 Feb 2013 Location: Fairmount GA Points: 4829 |
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Posted: 09 Jan 2020 at 7:55pm |
So we're about 80% through construction on the new farm and about 2 weeks ago we got a call from the EPD saying the neighbor was complaining about muddy water coming from the retention pond. They weren't so much worried about the muddy water but more that chicken litter would wash down out of the back of the houses and into the spring that's on the property line. The fact is the only litter that goes out the back of the houses is what's on your shoes when you step out and they know this because their brother/brother in law has 4 houses right in front of their house. Anyway, we went with it and did everything the EPD inspector asked. Well, today my father in law got a text from the neighbor along that I call her. It turns out she got his number from her daddy thinking it was mine. Well I called and the whole conversation was basically what are we going to do to work with them? First off, we're legal according to the county, the EPD, the NRCS, and chicken company. Second, what the hell makes a person think they can stomp toes by reporting us to the EPD and then ask "what are you going to do to work with us"? And her complaints we're so rediculous I don't know where to start. She complained about the back of the houses being on the end where she lives. That wasn't our decision. That was made by the chicken company and the designer and on top of that it just made the most sense. Second she's worried about the dust being blown on her property and what it might do to her children's health. The only fans pointed toward her property is 1 36" fan on the back of each house and the closest one is about 300 ft from the line and if that fan can blow dust 300 ft. then I'm 7 ft tall and bullet proof and can piss liquid gold. Her last complaint was the best one. She complained about the placement of the incinerator and how bad it will stink. THERE'S NOT AN INCINERATOR THERE YET!!! She saw a 500 gallon fuel tank from her yard and decided it's an incinerator and she knows how bad they smell because she grew up on a farm. The damn fuel tank doesn't have a smoke stack! Sorry for the rant. Just a little stressed I guess.
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desertjoe
Orange Level Access Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13526 |
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DANG,,,!!!. I feel for you, Guy. It's just too bad the world has to include AH's like her,,!! What you gonna have to do is stay on the good side of the EPD inspecter,,,cause from my experiences,,,Far too may times,,a person with responsibilities tends to listen to the first person that calls to complain and puts you on the defense. We had a neighbor like that when we lived in town,,and after a few years we bought the place we now have in the country and lived out here for bout 12 years ,,,until the farmers started to subdivide and in a matter of two years we suddenly had more neighbors than I thought was possible,,,with TWO of the absolute worst AH'S just down the road,,,,,Wisht I had enough money to buy their azz out and get rid of them...... Stay calm tho,,,,,,,
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13611 |
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I have and has had the same problems too! I did manage to chase out numerous neighbors thru the years...(won't tells ya how, staute of limitations ain't out yets). maybe a 6 foot solid fence between the houses and her place, that way any complaints from her would hafta come from her trespassing to try any complaints. and of course some females ain't happy thru life unless they can bitch bout someone or something! I guess I better ad males and he/she's in on the last statement too. finally...is she a competitor? stay with the requirements of the govt agencies tho. they are the best backups (not always the right ones) you can have right now. keep us posted
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Ted J
Orange Level Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18786 |
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Yep Tyler, just try and stay calm. Really pizzes me off when you've got your farm out in the middle of nowhere and the neighbor sell off his land and they develop it and then all the new owners want YOU to move. Stinky animals, stinky chemicals, you name it. And we're the ones who suffer because the govt pays attention to how many vote. It's BS, but what can you do? Bend over backwards when you interact with the inspectors and if you're within the law, just ignore the neighbors. You could have Shameless come stay with you for a few months........I bet they'd be glad to move!!
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13611 |
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Ted...maybe he needs some refrigerated trucks with spiqots out the side and some brass poles in the barns on opening eve? maybe a loud band too?
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 22256 |
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1) take a deep breath.. 2) count to ten... 3) printout all 'letters of compliance' from the 'guv' 4) IGNORE HER ! 1 and 2 will reduce stress... 3 is for next batch of guv that come by, it proves YOU are OK 4 life is too short to deal with her, block from phones we've all had 'wonderful' neighbours..funny thing is if you TOTALLY ignore them, they go away
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Darrell G (MN)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Green Isle MN Points: 1496 |
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I live on 6+ ac in a rural area and when we bought this place we needed to sign a agreement that we were aware that at times in a rural area there are odors, smells etc that are offensive. There has been very little bitching about ag noise or smells in this area.
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thendrix
Orange Level Joined: 04 Feb 2013 Location: Fairmount GA Points: 4829 |
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Thanks fellas. Feel a little better this morning. Woke a couple of times last night with it on my mind. No her family isn't technically a competitor. We grow for the same company and the only way they would be competitors is if we were selling at the same time. Even then her brother is a good man and I believe would help us any way he could and I would him. I guess the biggest problem I have is if she can get ahold of me up ask "what are you going to do too help me?" then why couldn't she get ahold of me to say "there's muddy water coming from your retention pond". Like I said before, how much help can you expect to get after stomping somebody's toes? Either way, we're legal. All she can do is bitch
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Butch(OH)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Lucerne Ohio Points: 3834 |
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Just another flower child or snow flake who's version of country life came from reading mother goose tales. Dealing with them can sometimes be the route of least resistance but it won't always cure them. Assuming you are legally installed and operating only you can decide at what point you tell them tuff chit, deal with it. I dealt with these people for many years in my business. Some cannot be satisfied and believe me, the authorities get tired of hearing thier iligit gripes also.
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chaskaduo
Orange Level Joined: 26 Nov 2016 Location: Twin Cities Points: 5203 |
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I wonder how much property tax and monetary value you generate for your area compared to her.
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Ignore the neighbors! Tell them to FOAD! lol!! The fence idea might not be bad either!--IF it's practical to build. DON'T give in to them, block the phone, and go about making your business grow!
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JohnCO
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niwot Colo Points: 8992 |
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Maybe you should ask her brother/brother in law what her problem is. Perhaps she's pregnant, I've noticed that women in that condition can be a real pain to deal with, hormone thing I guess.
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thendrix
Orange Level Joined: 04 Feb 2013 Location: Fairmount GA Points: 4829 |
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I guess pregnant could be a possibility but from the way she sounded he had to be hard up and desperate |
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Hubert (Ga)engine7
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson Cnty,GA Points: 6235 |
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I guess pregnant could be a possibility but from the way she sounded he had to be hard up and desperate [/QUOTE] Ain't believing you said that. Some people will look for something to bitch about. The best route is to have all of your ducks in a row and just ignore her. Son of the guy that leases my hay fields has chicken houses and some of the litter goes on my fields, one being within 50 feet of my house. Cousin that lives just down the road was complaining about the smell and I told her it smells like money to me. If you want to live in the country learn to appreciate these fine aromas.
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Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God.
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13611 |
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let her git the ulcers!
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Mikez
Orange Level Access Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8304 |
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Wow I just see this post, that sucks.
So lately in life in situations like this I think. Like is everything in her own life so perfect, she doesn't make muddy water or dust, how fast she drive up dirt driveway lol |
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cabinhollow
Orange Level Joined: 24 Mar 2018 Location: SEKY Points: 327 |
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If it was me doing what you are doing, within a week of buying the land, I would of been planting 4-5 rows of trees along the line anywhere there was a house.
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thendrix
Orange Level Joined: 04 Feb 2013 Location: Fairmount GA Points: 4829 |
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When we bought the place it was in 15 to 20 year old planted pines. We left 5 or 6 rows between us and the property line not counting the trees between her house and the property line. I thought it was enough but I guess not
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Tbone95
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Tyler, you should go with hedges instead of pines.
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JC-WI
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Thendrix, tell her since she is complaining and bitchn already, You have decided to raise pigs in the new housing... MILLIONS OF PIGS... We are having a great debate in this county, and it is over a hog raising enterprise corporation that lives in Iowa and has been looking for a place to build another million+ dollar establishment and 2 or 3 more sites too up here. Since I understand the area they are in won't let them build anymore facilities... but I can only say it is hearsay at this moment. I am not in the loop of this, just hear tidbits. --- A preliminary application for the CAFO
was filed with the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources in April
by Jeff Sauer from the company Cumberland LLC in conjunction with Suidae
Health and Production, based in Iowa. The 26,000-animal hog farm is
planned to be built near the town of Trade Lake, WI and the North Branch
of the Trade River. --- This outfit is scarin the 'll out of the local citizens and they have been investigating other areas that do have mega hog facilities and every one of them do not have any good words about them... stink is the main reason, coupled with the fact that many wells have become contaminated and ground waters too... On top of all this, the seller of the land is listed as eric melin, when the real fact is that his father Jim is/was the owner of the land and the son, Eric is taking over the farming operation... and Jim sits on the trade lake board... thus Cumberland farms bought the 35 acres of land so it would not be 'conflicts of interest'. LOL ""When are we going to stop getting attacked for wanting to have
profitable businesses?" said Melin. "If we can’t make money as a small
farm and we can’t be a big farm, what are we supposed to do?"" ""We’re happy to support you, but we can’t support something this large. It’s not family farming. It’s factory farming."" I would say it is factory corporate industry type farming... what if some other country buys the operation? Now it isn't even US based business. I have cattle, but in the summer, you can smell the 800 cow dairy that is 4 miles away from here... and mine, you don't smell them at all. There is a difference in what and how you farm.
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thendrix
Orange Level Joined: 04 Feb 2013 Location: Fairmount GA Points: 4829 |
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We get the "factory farm" name a lot. All from people that have no idea about the industry or how the farm operates. They just know what they've seen in PETA videos on the internet. They have seen them and they KNOW we're all just absolute monsters that are making millions and don't care about the animals. Have to ignore it but it's not easy
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chaskaduo
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How dare you feed us.
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thendrix
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That's the funny thing. The people complaining don't take into account the benefit they get from it. Most of them would rather move the poultry industry to South America or Asia where they don't regulate feed ingredients or animal welfare. |
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shameless dude
Orange Level Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13611 |
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Tyler...gits you some Applewood, and burn it in the incinerator for awhile, she'll see the smoke and wonder why her incinerator smells worse than yours! and if she wants any answers for anything, send her on a bunch of dead ends of places to call!
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thendrix
Orange Level Joined: 04 Feb 2013 Location: Fairmount GA Points: 4829 |
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You mean send her to the complaint officer named Helen Waite? If she has a problem she should go to Helen Waite? Sounds good to me
I talked to a friend who also has a chicken farm. He said everybody has a crazy neighbor. He said he cut a hedgerow down that was on his property and his came over and ate him up one side and down the other because of it Edited by thendrix - 11 Jan 2020 at 9:27pm |
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JoeM(GA)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Cumming,GA Points: 4600 |
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Tyler, she sounds like the crazy neighbor that used to be behind us, idiot came over and chewed me out because I didn't leave the key in my tractor and backhoe and she was gonna use them to spread out the dump truck of mulch she had delivered. Then expected me to go do it for her, and no I didn't. If you have to go face to face with her for any reason, I'd turn the camera on your phone on, even if you don't her in the shot, you'll have audio of her statements and any threats she says! It's become a CYA world!
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If you haven't noticed that most people don't care as long as they don't see it. Just look how many years has it been that they shut our factories down becouse of emissions, pollution, labor and other red tape. But don't seem to be bothered how the other countries manufacture stuff
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