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Dump truck or dump trailer?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DMiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jun 2019 at 6:18am
Our 800' of drive when put in new took 8 24t loads of 2"clean, then expanded the upper end of it with another six loads. The hauler once the lane was compacted by other trucks 'Sealed' it with another 7 loads of inch minus(inch down to fines).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DougG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jun 2019 at 7:10am
That's expensive insurance 50 a month, FB here in Mo that's for a year on a farm licenced truck, my opinion your better off hiring a good dump trucker do it, it'll be a lot cheaper in the long run
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Thats a nice rig John, Cummins 5.9, Allison slush, 11,000+ miles.  I'm not too fond of the color but that can be fixed, Shameless has lots of pink, I hear...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mayaoung Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 2022 at 3:46am
At the end of the day it all depends on your budget. A dump truck would be the most suitable for you. You can look out for used one, shouldn't be too expensive. webuyanytruk.com is one of the good website. There's a team of consultants that's always on stand ready to help you out. All information they require from you is your budget and your preferences. If you don't know what you wish to buy, then the consultant may ask you some questions to figure out which type of truck is the one for you. Buying an old truck is way more beneficial because you can always sell it at a higher price depending on the market

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You can spread with a trailer if you buy the right one. Here in Michigan, unless you do a lot of it, a trailer is way more economical than a truck. Michigan plates + Michigan No Fault insurance= small fortune to own a dump truck.  Trailer is a one time plate fee and it is good for the life of the trailer......or you......LOL

I heard a mention on this post about 50.00 a month for insurance being expensive. Thats 600 for a year and that is DIRT CHEAP here in Michigan. I dont own a dump truck so I dont know for sure, but going off what I do know, I doubt 50.00 would buy a week of Michigan No Fault insurance on a commercially plated dump truck

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I am a large fan of Moritz Trailers. Their tail gates are dual purpose, can be set up to open like a dump truck -OR- like a traditional double door. Box vibrators can be added for sticky material

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I know this is an old thread and probably a moot point by now.

I have a 14K Suretrac 14' x 7' dump trailer. It's a very handy trailer to have. I've used it around the yard, to haul one tractor, wood and many other things. When I built my garage in 2011, my intention was to haul all the fill I needed with the dump trailer. After I hauled a few loads of #2 stone, one of the guys I was working with suggested that I look into having a local trucker haul the rest. The guy brought me two loads (about 60 tons +/-) for $500. I couldn't come close to hauling it for that.

The dealer I bought the trailer from had a sign up in his yard that said "NEED MORE FRIENDS - BUY A TRAILER". Truer words were never spoken!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DaveKamp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 2022 at 7:23am
The question is wether to buy a truck, or a trailer...

But for your circumstance, the best answer is NEITHER... 
Because you said "quarry is a 2 hour round trip"

The cost of the material you're hauling, is low, in comparison to transport.
Let's say you wanted to match that 24T haul with anything smaller... you might be able to go with a 5-6t tandem axle 5th wheel, or with a class 6 farm truck, the former being a little faster on the road, the latter being substantially more expensive to own and operate.

The big truck haulers can carry a significant amount (especially a semi with long-dump material bed) in the same time or less, under their insurance, and burn about the same amount of fuel, but transport more material in less time.

In that case, the only issue is dumping, and depending on circumstances, I can see why some will, and some won't spread with the tailgate.  Same around here... the county trucks WILL (and they have a little belly blade they use to spread it when they do), and many owner-ops will tailgate, but COMPANY drivers won't, because companies don't submit to the risks.

A box-blade to spread is the better scenario, and just invest the quality time.  Yeah, it takes alot.  Got a grandkid that can operate the skid-steer?  A half mile drive will take a while, but bein' able to bucket it part-way will speed it up lots.

Aside from that, I own a light tandem dump trailer.  I haul firewood, trash, gravel, sand, dirt, and scrap metal with it.  The truck has maneuvering advantages, but the trailer defeats those with versatility.  I can park the trailer in one spot, hand-load it full of scrap, dirt, or whatever... then pull it with the D17 to driveway, hitch it up, and head down the road.  I can pick up a load of compost, pull it home, unhitch, pull it to the back with the D17, park and tarp it, and when weekend comes around and she wants to spread compost, I hook it with the D17, pull it alongside the gardens, and we hand-unload.

It WILL tailgate.  Yes, balance CAN become an issue, but not with it locked to the D17.  If I need to unload PART, I just swing the gate open,  drive the Kubota up to it, and knife out a bit onto the ground, pull forward, do it again.  I can drive the Kubota up INTO the trailer to unload or load it.  Can't do that with a dumptruck, it's too tall.

Registration is something like $25/yr here...
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