crossbreeding

Nothing like experience . Just asking questions . Had to process through them to.  Changing something as small as lifter diameter . When not thinking about it can leave one scratching his head some times.Does with me any ways.  Kamp dont let the reply on the cylinder head make you mad .

Edited by mlpankey - 19 Jan 2012 at 12:36pm

wi50   I am very impressed by your work. Please keep us posted with new updates.   Thanks Mark

DaveKamp wrote: "I don't know, but he is obviously aware of some aspect of his situation, that you're not".

wi50 wrote: You boys are doing a fine job.   I am haveing problems posting pictures from my phone after the forum change.  I'll keep trying to get them to load and get it figured out.   But the roller lifter setup is actually verry simple.  I ordered a piloted reamer to pilot in the original lifter bores and ream them to the new diameter.  In the block between the lifter bores is a square hole, I find center between the lifter bores for a cylinder and I bore that square hole to a round hole, I can't clean up the whole thing or it gets to thin, but there's room to get a 7/8-14 thread in that hole.  I made a plug with a flange on it and drilled and tapped the center of the plug, threaded the outside 7/8-14.    I made the dogbones to hold the lifters from some old take outs I cut and welded to a new plate with a hole in the center of the plate.    Now a simple stripper bolt with a spring on it comes down from the top of the block and goes through the dogbone and threads into the bushing I threaded in from the bottom.  All this holds the dogbone in place, the dogbone holds the lifters from rotating and puts some downpressure on the cam.   The only trick is finding lifters of the right length to engage in the block material, a small enough diameter to leave plenty of materal in the block for strength and dogbones to fit in the block.    The billet cam isn't that big of a task.  It takes a while to turn out a blank, and a cam grinder can do the rest.   It's all about getting the proper valve opening rates for the parts used.

agree dogbone keeps lifter from rotating . agree cam grinder needs roller wheel diameter to set duration to get valve opening rate . cut a access in side of block to put lifters in  from the top ?

Edited by mlpankey - 20 Jan 2012 at 5:48pm

yeah...i thoughts you were talkin bouts 37!!

I'm thinking he's talking about the alky burner he's building.  Maybe I'm wrong.  Performance mods for a 226 in my world involve M&W pistons.  What WI50 is doing is crazy stupid fun to watch.

Rod B wrote: I thought someone posted one time that it was impossiable to put roller lifters in one of these.  Not the same dolt is quoteing everything in agreement.   Maybe Wi's apprentice is learning something.

shubick ceramic lifters are easier to use because they can go in from the bottom like the oem.    keep reading rod b you to may become a apprentice of eithers

Edited by mlpankey - 21 Jan 2012 at 5:36pm

Rod B wrote: How did your pulling season go pankey? I rember reading one of your rants on the yt forum how you putting off projects and useing the money to put your tractor togather. Going to go pull against Wi, make us a video and show everyone how it was done. I know at the Nat. GOTO we were sure laughing about you.

  hows your pulling season rod ? you ever go to any pulls or just hang around the shows where you have plenty of setting around gossiping time?

keyways to locate . dowl pins work for us . still got 9 years left to be out of pulling before making a pull at goto. i think my planet jr could do well there.

Edited by mlpankey - 22 Jan 2012 at 2:12pm

Marty, sent you a PM about the pictures.  

I dont't usually get involved if dirty diaper sports, but I feel compelled to so this time.  The only thing I know about Plankey is that I offered him some advice once for a firing problem he was having (use a electronic distributor out of a Chevy Chevette with a little machining  to solve a lot of problems in a 201/226 block).   As far a wi50 goes  know absolutely nothing except from what I have read on this forum.  I know just a little bit about engine machining but wi50 has put me in awe with his knowledge.  It's obvious that he has forgotten more about engine machining than most of us will ever know and that includes you Plankey.  Also Plankey, if you would start trying to learn from wi50/s post, as most of us are trying to do, instead of making an ass of yourself by offering suggestions that are antiquated by wi50's level of expertise, you would be much better off.  It is easy to see you know a little about engine machine work but you nor I are in the same class as wi50.  Set back, enjoy the roses, and learn with an open mind.

geb wrote: I dont't usually get involved if dirty diaper sports, but I feel compelled to so this time.  The only thing I know about Plankey is that I offered him some advice once for a firing problem he was having (use a electronic distributor out of a Chevy Chevette with a little machining  to solve a lot of problems in a 201/226 block).   As far a wi50 goes  know absolutely nothing except from what I have read on this forum.  I know just a little bit about engine machining but wi50 has put me in awe with his knowledge.  It's obvious that he has forgotten more about engine machining than most of us will ever know and that includes you Plankey.  Also Plankey, if you would start trying to learn from wi50/s post, as most of us are trying to do, instead of making an ass of yourself by offering suggestions that are antiquated by wi50's level of expertise, you would be much better off.  It is easy to see you know a little about engine machine work but you nor I are in the same class as wi50.  Set back, enjoy the roses, and learn with an open mind.

have you seen a picture of the two additional upper mains tied into the block with sleeves installed. five main crank setting on three mains is the picture i have seen . I guess thats jumping down a throat. Or making a ignorant statement. kinda like a clutch just setting around. cap spacing took away cross arcing from little cap. sold that dizzy for 300 in virginia also had a head go there to. 

Edited by mlpankey - 23 Jan 2012 at 7:52am

A couple friends and I are togather on a component alky tractor.  My incomplete pictures of a clutch for it are because the pressure plate was not finished last time I was at Atlas Tractor..... but he had a scrap one I could use for dimensional purposes to get the clutch can to block spaceing correct.  Wednesday though I'll have the good one.  Just in case some idiot can't understand why I would have a 4 disc slipper laying around.

 

Now projects like this Allis engine or the superstock take a lot of time.  In the first post I did say it's a work in progress.  99.9% of you realize this, though I do get time on it now and then and have a lot of the parts well under way or completed for the next step in the process.  There is an order of operations one must go through in order not to back track to much.

 

 

I was on the road today, but I did get to the shop late this afternoon and took some pictures.  I'll send them to Chuck in a bit so he can post them.  I'll post them on YT mag tractor pulling forum shortly. 

 

Ladies and gentlemen, let someone's drama continue.  I'll spend my time on my family, my work and my projects.

Someone lock this thread, WOW...Trev.

only problem with this thread is Plankey.  Maybe someone can lock him.