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bincitybandit 
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 Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 10:33pm |
 donais wrote:
hao does that hydraulic fitting work on the back? is it a single acting? |
I could be wrong, but I believe it is single acting. I have a very early D17, and we put a return line on it going back to the torque housing so that we could use it on "newer" implements.....................
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ALLIS: B, WC, G, G, D10, D12, D14, D14(NF), D15, D17, D17(NF), D19, D21, D21
MINNEAPOLIS MOLINE: U, U, U(NF), GB
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FORD: 871 Select-O-Speed
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Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 10:14pm |
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thank you for the welcome hope to someday be as big a help as i have already recieved! that brings me to another question. hao does that hydraulic fitting work on the back? is it a single acting? it has the knob just below it is that on/off ,flow control? and how is that one turned on? is it the handle on the panel where the guages are? hope to soon change this over to normal 3 point all my attachments ate 3 pt. thanks again jon
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Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 6:25pm |
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Welcome to forum, as you can see lots of help here.
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Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 2:24pm |
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Those are Oxnard weights on the back, they weigh about 350 pounds each, made by Oxnard division that also made the snap coupler blade and other implements.
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Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 1:34pm |
D-17_Dave wrote:
Looks like an engine out of a series IV also. You may have the parts of a combined 17 and 19. Regardless, you have a nice tractor with lots of fun ahead. |
How can you tell a series 4 motor?
Hanging on the front grill shell I believe that is a "Frantz" oil filter that uses a roll of toilet paper as the filter.
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Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 11:02am |
it also has filled rears and front weights behind the wheels. also any idea what the filter on the outside there might be for i was thinking some kind of breather. where it is hooked in looks like something else went there. it hooks in right behind the fuel filters.
Edited by donais - 30 Dec 2011 at 11:06am
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Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 10:53am |
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D17 dave why do you say that is a 19 front end? I looked at my 19s and they look similar but they are alot bigger than that front, and all my 17s wfs have that same front cast piece that the front piviot goes in and the 19 ones look different, and alot bigger. As well as taller, also it looks like the front has been broke, or extended because it is a diesel and they are longer than a gas one. The wheel weights seem to be the Oxnard 250 pounders, I would love to have a set of them
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Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 10:37am |
it also came with some ag tires on i think 38 inch rims
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Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 8:49am |
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What is the tractor's serial number ?
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bincitybandit
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Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 7:34am |
Tin looks pretty good on it. Ironically, you have the same rear rubber that my D17 has...........construction tires. Funny..........
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ALLIS: B, WC, G, G, D10, D12, D14, D14(NF), D15, D17, D17(NF), D19, D21, D21
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Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 12:03am |
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Looks like an engine out of a series IV also. You may have the parts of a combined 17 and 19. Regardless, you have a nice tractor with lots of fun ahead.
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Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 12:00am |
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Interesting rear wheel weights you have there. Also you have a wide front end off a D-19 on it with the bolster weight hanging out past the grill and the wishbone cut down and braced. What's the odd canister on the left front. Keep the pics coming. We love pics.
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Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 11:28pm |
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Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 11:23pm |
note to self dont pull that handle the pump is capped off. i just went out and looked at the brake pin, looks like it might be possible to reline it without splitting the final drive?
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Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 11:20pm |
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The shoes will come out the top if you can get those blasted anchor pins out of the bottom.Only need to pull the housing to replace the drum....and there is a good chance they are shot too if run with bad lining.
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Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 11:18pm |
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Serie IV 17's had the pump where the belt pulley went for low pressure high volumn hydraulics like most late model tractors had. If yours is a series III then someone likely installed the series IV setup onto it. Which is more deired for operating hydraulic late model equipment. And yes, it will connect/disconnect the drive for the pump.
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Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 11:13pm |
no belt pulley where that was is a hydraulic pump. would that knob turn the pump on and off? also do i have to take the final drive to replace the pads? kinda looks like the pads might be gone.
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Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 11:11pm |
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Well, I just learned something! We didn't have a belt pulley on our D17, nor were there any knobs close to say anything about it. The only knob on the right side was to lock and set the brakes by pulling up on it. Thanks!
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Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 11:07pm |
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The bushing on the steering shaft is still available from AGCO. I have a D17 too and I had to have a machine shop build my steering shaft up and then turn it down to match the bushing. Like the others say, the "toothed" lever is the traction booster for using tillage tools like a plow. Does your tractor have a large flat belt pulley on the right side? There is a knob on the lower right side of the gauge panel that you pull out to engage it.
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Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 10:59pm |
The things you describe are pretty common for an aged tractor that's seen lots of use. These can all be rebushed/rebuilt as desired. The lower lever as you said is for the rear lift. Push it up all the way to raise, let it center to hold, pull all the way down to lower. The upper lever is a pressure adjustment against the load being pulled that raises the implement under heavy load. Basicly it's a draft control, but since the Allis hitch attaches to the same location as the applied load from the implement it's much more sensitive in reaction. This setup is call Traction Boost. The hitch setup is called a Snap Coupler. An owners manual will help you get the brakes adjusted and will help you get familiarised with everything properly so you don't hurt the tractor and more importantly it doesn't hurt you.
Almost forgot, if you have a black knob on the lower right of the dash is likely the engagement for a belt pulley. You can have the linkage and knob without having the pulley and vice versas. It was part of the attachment package. If you do have the lever and knob and don't want/need it I'd be interested as I'm missing this on mine.
Hope this helps and welcome.
Edited by D-17_Dave - 29 Dec 2011 at 11:03pm
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Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 10:59pm |
Hi Jon and welcome to the forum. The other lever in front of the hydraulic lever is the traction booster lever. It adjusts/sets the depth of the implement that you are pulling. Real nice to use. The only knob that I can think of on the gauge panel is the cigarette lighter, or maybe light switch. I grew up on a Series 1. HTH. Jim
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Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 10:45pm |
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to me! I just traded for this d-17 series 3 and have lots of questions. it is in ok-ish shape. the brakes are gone or really out of adjustment and lots of worn bushings, like where the steering shaft goes inside the frame also the clutch pedal is attached. motor runs good but i need an exhaust gasket. i am trying to find a parts and operators manual. can anyone explain to me what all the levers do on the steering wheel? i know the one on the right is the throttle and front left is the rear lift but what does the one in front of it do? alst there is a knob on the guage panel what does it do? any one have a pic of what the parts for the brake adj. looks like? thanks jon
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