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    Posted: 03 Jun 2022 at 4:18pm
I have a ac wd45 and need to bale hay.
Can the tractor handle a cutditoner.
I have the right rake and baler for the tractor but not sure about the mower
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I can't find the correct string for the roto baler can I use normal string
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I can run a New Holland 474 haybine with mine with no problems
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What model of "haybine" (or equivalent) are you asking about ?
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I had always used the plastic 110/20,000 big round baler twine with my Roto-Baler. The twine knife has to be razor sharp and the tension has to be tighter. Some brands of plastic twine will cut easier than others. If the plastic twine you find doesn't cut cleanly, try another brand. I found the multi colored twine did not cut well the Orange plastic I could get, would cut cleanly. 
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I don't know what model I just got it this year and don't know much about it
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A "Cut-Ditioner" is a New Idea brand and works like a stalk shredder, whacking off the hay and throwing it a windrow. Takes more HP that a sickle with crimping rolls. Wouldn't be my choice for alfalfa due to leaf damage. Try it. Your tractor will pull it as fast as it has HP for.
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I will try that

Will I have to do anything to make the plastic string work in the roto baler
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Your blades need to be sharp and 7 foot would be better than 9 foot it’ll bring your 45 to her knees in heavy hay I could almost stall out my Allis 180 with a seven footer back in the 70s in heavy fine hay. good luck!

Edited by captaindana - 04 Jun 2022 at 5:00am
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... and don't hit any standing water with the cutditioner (or discbine).
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The Cut-Ditioner has 4 rows of staggered 6” cupped flail blades that can swivel on rods attached to a 12”? Diameter drum/cylinder/rotor??? Older models have a double chain drive & newer models have a belt drive. Turn off tractor pto on tight turns to not wreck pto cross bearings & yokes. It’s Gearbox has an “over-ride” clutch drive that allows rotor’s momentum to keep spinning freely, after pto stops.
In short(2’) thin hay , it can move along faster. In tall (4-5’) thick hay, its 1st gear & hand/foot ready on tractor clutch. Crank up its cutting height if too much of a pull.
As said previously, keep its blades sharp. Also allow hay to completely dry off from any heavy overnight dews before beginning to cut.
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Where do you get binder twine also I'm not completely sure how to string the roto baler

Edited by hunter321 - 18 Jun 2022 at 12:45am
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Originally posted by hunter321 hunter321 wrote:

Where do you get binder twine also I'm not completely sure how to string the roto baler

Do you have any Amish near you? If you do, talk to them and they will be able to tell you where they get it for their binders and corn harvesters.

The small plastic twine for (large) round balers is similar size.

If you can't find it locally, Amazon has it.


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Ok I will check.
Any advice on stringing the baler once I have the binder twine
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I pulled a 7 foot one with my D21run it at about 1400 rpm’s worked good
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Originally posted by DaveWisc. DaveWisc. wrote:

I pulled a 7 foot one with my D21run it at about 1400 rpm’s worked good

Yeah, I bet it did!!  LOL
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If I can't get binder twine can I use something else.

Anyone have a diagram of how to tread the roto baler
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A spring connected to the twine arm broke and I was wondering if I could just get a spring from theisens.

Anyone know what size the spring is
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Search google for allis repairs, roto balers.  Agrimson tool has the spring you are looking for at a cost of $7.
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I found the spring but now I need belts. Anyone know where I could get cheap belts or belt material
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