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shameless dude 
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Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 8:11am |
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had an about a 10 inch ash tree limb break off and fall in the front yard, just missed the deck. no dead in it, no bugs that I can see. weird that it broke off all by itself, no storm, just a lot of rain. been cutting it up last 2 days, should be able to finish today. it did destroy our fire pit that was under it. I been burning the branches right next to where it fell. (burn pit area).
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shameless dude
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Posted: 19 Aug 2018 at 10:05pm |
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I agree Jay...there are all kinds of warfare, they tried to get our pets a few years ago too!
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Posted: 19 Aug 2018 at 6:14am |
shameless.. seems the guvs gt another 'plan'. They just allow 'wildfires' to start, run rampant and kill 100s of millions of trees. Someone, somewhere showed pine trees being the next species to be killed off ! Had 'they' NOT allowed ANY wooden skids in from outside our countries,we'd still have ash trees here, and elm, and........
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Posted: 19 Aug 2018 at 4:11am |
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I wonder if fogging the whole tree with an insecticide would do the trick? maybe several applications thru the summer?
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Posted: 18 Aug 2018 at 11:08pm |
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to bad we cant get those buggers trained to burrow into the mesquite 'tree'.
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Posted: 16 Aug 2018 at 10:02pm |
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it pay's some time to get a good bull rope in a big tree an put it wear you wan't it to go.i do it for a living. a tree can get you heart if you don't know what your doing. seen a lot of people get killed' because of not wanting to pay someone to 'at least get on the ground. for them.it's sad' but it's the truth.
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Posted: 16 Aug 2018 at 9:40pm |
As a very young man,,bout 14 years old,,,I learned how to properly fell BIG trees,,mostly them huge elms that were dyin from thet disease killin em. My Daddy took to contractin on cuttin them down and guess who wount up havin to climb plumb to the highest crotch that would hold the rest of the limbs. That crotch was our snatch block for lettin the other branches down to ground. The limb with the crotch was last one down and My Dad would tie the rope to trk and pull it out to street. ONE time we come very close to takin out the owner's new trk by inches,,,,whew,,,,,
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Posted: 16 Aug 2018 at 9:23pm |
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I used to cut a lot of trees at night, I had good portable lighting back then. I was lucky!
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Posted: 16 Aug 2018 at 6:04pm |
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Posted: 16 Aug 2018 at 8:13am |
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When I was clearing the building site for my house, I cut down some HUGE trees. 60 -70 foot maples, some smaller oaks, poplar, etc. Naturally, most of the time I was alone. I picked a direction and fell every one of those trees like a pro right where I wanted. Sister and brother in law stopped by, I was literally on the last tree. Small mostly dead tree, very straight, no worries. I saw where they were standing, I said, "Uhhh....maybe you should move back some. Never know." That friggin' tree fell over exactly OPPOSITE to the direction I planned, would have been right on top of them. Crazy. Yeah, you really gotta be thinking ahead.
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Posted: 16 Aug 2018 at 7:08am |
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You are right Tbone! I have had some really close calls felling trees! And I could tell a lot of stories about local people too. I take my time and study the tree and always plan an escape route. I also use as many tools in my favor that I can take to the woods. One of the best items that I used was my father in laws Kubota tractor with a log skidding attachment. That really is a good tool. My son now has it since my father in law passed away and he lives 2 hours away so my faithful 185 is my woods helper.
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Posted: 15 Aug 2018 at 11:25pm |
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I agree T-Bone, freeky accidents kill/wound just the same!
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Posted: 15 Aug 2018 at 7:41am |
Guess it depends on the direction of the wind, and the direction you'd prefer it to go.... 2 guys at work here have been injured over the years. The one guy had a stick/branch fall from way up high, and sort of stab him through the side of the eye orbit / socket. Looked pretty nasty, and his eye doesn't track quite right, but he did not lose sight. Hardhat anyone? The other guy was limbing a tree already fell. He didn't notice the spring set into one of the branches, or noticed it but didn't think it was that bad, anyway he cut into that and it sprung out and whacked him in the face, sent him flying backwards with a broken jaw, cheekbone, eye orbit, and a nice concussion. Took him a while to make a recovery. Both these guys were very experienced. I think there comes a point in your experience where you think you're bulletproof. Seen it on more than one topic.
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Posted: 15 Aug 2018 at 6:58am |
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I know all about cutting trees on windy days! been thru that already, and that dude is correct! lol
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Posted: 14 Aug 2018 at 11:41pm |
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Well I learned this fact from a logger named Ray you don't cut timber on a windy day
Stay out of the woods when the moisture's low
Or you ain't gonna live to collect your dough! Lyric from the Johnny Cash song "Lumberjack".
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Posted: 14 Aug 2018 at 10:01pm |
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I don't see any dead stuff in the trees so far, and hope it stays that way, but i'm sure it won't.
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Posted: 14 Aug 2018 at 9:39pm |
Dave, BTDTB!!!
LOL sure takes the edge of immediately, doesn't it?
A word to those not felling every day, these ash tree that have had the borer kill them, some are sound as a rock, but most are varying soundness at different heights over the stump I am finding. The quality of the hinge wood should always be treated s being suspect with the dead ash.Just as you would with any other dead tree you are felling.
When that hinge wood gets soft the tree becomes a challenge to manage
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Posted: 14 Aug 2018 at 8:07am |
 I can remember the day that I could not locate my plastic wedges. Soooo, I thought with my experience I would never mess up and hit one of those iron wedges with the chain. i don't remember how I managed it, but it took less than a nano second. 
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Posted: 13 Aug 2018 at 2:07pm |
 Ash Tree I cut for a friend. Measured 48" on the stump. My saw has a 3 ft. bar. As you see we jacked it over with his Porta Power so it would not fall in the open ditch.
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Posted: 13 Aug 2018 at 5:02am |
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I would look into systemic insecticide.
What is used locally to control the gall wasps on the pin oak trees.
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Posted: 12 Aug 2018 at 10:22pm |
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I did find some chemicals that are used, both injectable and spray on stuff, i'll write them all down and go see my chemical dealer, I still have my applicator license!
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Posted: 12 Aug 2018 at 10:20pm |
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there ain't no bucket truck big nuff to reach up near the top of this tree, and i'd hafta move the car ports and the office and the goat building and have someone do traffic control on the highway. the power company came with their biggest man lift truck and didn't get but about 1/2 way up it, they did trim some off for me.
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Posted: 11 Aug 2018 at 11:07pm |
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The worry is about the the dead limbs falling as the tree is being cut. Take the dead limbs off with a bucket truck first and then fall it. Neat video on YouTube falling a nasty looking tree with a powerful hydraulic jack
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Posted: 11 Aug 2018 at 10:57pm |
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the big tree is next to the house and driveway where my office trailer and the car ports are. I wouldn't mind cutting that one down, but the one in the front yard shades our house so well, we hardly have to run the a/c.
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Posted: 11 Aug 2018 at 10:52pm |
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Tree in the picture has a lean twoard the house. The loading of the branches could help in falling . I would have to see it in person to determine how to fall it. Leaners I have felled with a hydraulic jack.
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Posted: 11 Aug 2018 at 10:38am |
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Shameless, can you safely drop that tree? Once it starts dying? NOT on the highway though!
Get some youngsters up in it and start cutting limbs off?
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Posted: 11 Aug 2018 at 10:35am |
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We lost all of ours around here. Cost is around $500 per year per tree.
Now I'm worried about the Oak wilt. Have some HUGE ones that are dead now. It's been 3 years since it started.
On another note though, I have seen about 20 American Elms growing. Most were about 2 to 3" around. They were supposed to all be dead from some disease, but they're making a comeback.
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Posted: 11 Aug 2018 at 9:09am |
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all mine are still alive yet, I keep checking the tops of the trees as that's where they start dying. one i'm really worried about is about way over a 100 ft tall and next to the house.
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Posted: 11 Aug 2018 at 8:58am |
Not a very good picture but dead ash tree with dead branches falling. Customer of mine I was working for this morning. They have a tree service scheduled to take down. Guy wanted to himself but is worried about the widow makers hanging. 
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Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 10:14pm |
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Be aware you really have to catch one and examine closely to prove it's an EAB. As there are a few other species that look almost exactly like them but a slight difference. Google emerald ash borer identification to find many guides on how to tell the difference. I've found many beetles that look exactly like the one on the above penny but not a one has turned out to be an EAB yet. The red thorax is a key identification of the EAB.
All my ash trees are looking good so far. EAB is only about a hundred or less miles away though so just a matter of time.
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