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CAL(KS)
Orange Level Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Chapman, KS Points: 3786 |
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yes thank you for clarifying, i should have elaborated |
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 31116 |
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Dependent on if Trunk type or Cross Head pistons as to parts lists.
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gemdozer
Orange Level Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Points: 989 |
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Did you removed the fuel pump if the coupling or the shaft is't brooked.
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WaltDevore
Bronze Level Joined: 03 Jan 2020 Location: IdahoSprings CO Points: 143 |
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I'm ready to pull the head. Is there any trick to get it loose? It doesn't seem too big and heavy to manage it manually. I can't find any point of purchase to work a long crowbar. Recommendations? Thanks
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 31116 |
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Try NOT to pry Under the head, just get it loose then lift it off the studs with a small hoist or a tractor using bolt holes on the top. These have no true Head Gasket, the block and head are a machined fit up with seal rings. The studs will need to be in place to reset the head so as not to shift it across these seal rings.
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gemdozer
Orange Level Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Points: 989 |
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I am't sure if the water pump have to be removed with speacer plate to pull the head off and not sure too if the 2 long bolts from blower are bolted in block or in head
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WaltDevore
Bronze Level Joined: 03 Jan 2020 Location: IdahoSprings CO Points: 143 |
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It may be above freezing for the first time in a while tomorrow. With my limited resources, I've devised this rig to pull the head off. Do you see any obvious absurdities I'm missing?
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WaltDevore
Bronze Level Joined: 03 Jan 2020 Location: IdahoSprings CO Points: 143 |
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I'll put the chain on the back of the lift circle closest to the handle. The pull won't be perfectly vertical. Just hope to break loose without breaking anything.
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DiyDave
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 51721 |
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If you have everything on the head that holds it to the block removed, take #2 piston, and re-assemble it, with a piece of something like carpet, or a circle of wood, on top. Put the old bearing halves in, around the crank, and turn the crank, to pop the head off...
Edited by DiyDave - 25 Jan 2020 at 6:08pm |
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DiyDave
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 51721 |
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[QUOTE=DiyDave]If you have everything on the head that holds it to the block removed, take #2 piston, and re-assemble it, with a piece of something like carpet, or a circle of wood, on top. Put the old bearing halves in, around the crank, and turn the crank, to pop the head off... [QUOTE]
Whoops, didn't remember that you don't have the pistons out. Do you have an injector out? If so, feed a length of rope, down the injector hole, to do the same thing as I said earlier, above!
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WaltDevore
Bronze Level Joined: 03 Jan 2020 Location: IdahoSprings CO Points: 143 |
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I do have the injectors out. That is an amazing idea. Thanks!!
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Coke-in-MN
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41608 |
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Head should come off easily without all this monkey business .
Injector tube is copper and flared at end into head - the hole through is not large enough to pass much through . IF all the bolts are removed head should be able to be lifted - looks like you have the lift rings on head secured to your lifting device , next get a soft blow hammer and tap on head . Now pistons and liners come out from top , pistons can be removed with liners intact yet in block - liners are shimmed into block to get a proud dimension from top of block face of about .005 . With all the crusty crud in the bottom of the blower housing - evidently the drain hole on bottom of housing is closed off - it's a 1/4" threaded hole in bottom of the housing and it MUST be open to allow drainage . Edited by Coke-in-MN - 25 Jan 2020 at 10:18pm |
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WaltDevore
Bronze Level Joined: 03 Jan 2020 Location: IdahoSprings CO Points: 143 |
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Thanks for that. I'm off to see what happens. I sure appreciate the tips as I go. I pray the beast will rise again.
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gemdozer
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I am not sure but you need to removed the water pump and oil cooler for removed the head
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WaltDevore
Bronze Level Joined: 03 Jan 2020 Location: IdahoSprings CO Points: 143 |
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Bronze Level Joined: 03 Jan 2020 Location: IdahoSprings CO Points: 143 |
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WaltDevore
Bronze Level Joined: 03 Jan 2020 Location: IdahoSprings CO Points: 143 |
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Is this worth saving? |
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NomoreJohnDeere
Silver Level Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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tolerances determine that
Hows the crosshatch?
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 31116 |
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Cannot see it for the Red Rust!! Rings will be stuck if not scrubbed raw.
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WaltDevore
Bronze Level Joined: 03 Jan 2020 Location: IdahoSprings CO Points: 143 |
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Is cross hatch the hone on the cylinder wall? I guess I should get each piston to its bottom and see what it looks like. I should clean it up with some oil and check it then? The exhaust stems as seen through the ports are rusted. I'll try to do this now. Need to charge up my battery.
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WaltDevore
Bronze Level Joined: 03 Jan 2020 Location: IdahoSprings CO Points: 143 |
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The liners feel pitted in areas. At this moment it seems a valve job, liners, and rings. Any guess as to the bucks that involves? Thanks
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 31116 |
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Google Detroit 71 Series Cylinder Kits. Gonna be in the $200 Each hole range.
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WaltDevore
Bronze Level Joined: 03 Jan 2020 Location: IdahoSprings CO Points: 143 |
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I have not tended to the fuel pump yet. I'm unclear as to its operation. Seems it operates down in the block. Will it disassemble straight forward and reveal its condition? Can't see how anything could have happened to it but for some reason it's not pumping. I will check that next. Thanks!
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DMiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 31116 |
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They are a pretty simple PDP Gear Pump with check valves to keep flowing forward. Feed thru to a restrictor fitting at end of head on the back to tank line.
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Ray54
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4546 |
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If there is question about the pump replace it. It has been 20 years but I think $35. Went through much hasle because it was not the experts idea to replace. It is out in the open 2 fuel lines and 2 bolts.
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jerbob
Orange Level Joined: 07 Aug 2017 Location: Michigan Points: 961 |
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Good luck on your project Walt and welcome to the forum. These folks have the advice and answers. AS to your track idler, I was able to pull my track adjuster, yoke and then idler assembly on my HD16. I used a 20 ton porta power to push the idler and yoke as far forward as possible and they allowed me just enough room to pull the adjuster rod out at the rear of the assembly. Once that was out, I pulled the yoke and was able to jack up the tractor enough to free up the idler. Was a hot mess of a project as I was learning as I was going but I did not have to split the track. Also the comment as to the wear on the rails is very valid. Mine are adjusted almost to the very front of the rails so I had enough stretch to be make it all work. |
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jerbob
Orange Level Joined: 07 Aug 2017 Location: Michigan Points: 961 |
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You can see the slack on my tracks when I purchased my baby. Pushing on the track adjuster all the way forward with the porta power allowed me to pull the adjuster rod and then everything freed up. |
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