Sunmaster Belly Mower.
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Topic: Sunmaster Belly Mower.
Posted By: cosborn
Subject: Sunmaster Belly Mower.
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2014 at 3:28pm
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I have a Sunmaster belly mower on my B. The modal # appears to be 3-360T with the serial # looking to be 61977-050-3715-3. The tag is in bad shape. I have it oiled and greased up. However the darn thing keeps throwing the deck belt (goes around the 3 blade spindles). I've tried it tight and tried it lose. Any advice? Like does it need to be supper tight or do in need to make a keeper pulley/bolt? ------------- 1949 "C" vin #c71215, 1939 "B" Wide front, WD45 nf, WD45 wf, 1941 "C" work in progress. Wd wide front |
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Posted By: Creek Jenkins
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2014 at 4:11pm
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Cosborn - Are you using the old round belt or the new style double V belt? Or a regular V belt? I had the same problem on my C with my 60" SunMastr, the old round one finally gave up the ghost so I bought a new double V Gates. It kept throwing it off, sometimes right away, sometimes it would take a few minutes of mowing. I kept putting it back on, tightening it a little more, over and over, until a light came on, I backed off the adjustment until the belt seemed like it was too loose. Haven't touched it since, works like a charm. I guess since it is a big belt and has a lot of surface contact, you don't need to run it too tight. It has been a really good deck, I have many many hours mowing the "rough" outside my yard - thick and thin, tall and short grass, with the odd branch and rock thrown in. About4-5 acres. Plus I raise it up all the way and mow the tops off the grass in the pasture as our sheep won't eat the woody heads. Bought new blades last year and it mows as well as my $6000 zero turn. cheers, Creek |
Posted By: cosborn
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2014 at 8:38am
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IT is a double V. Ill have to loosen it more on my next day off. ------------- 1949 "C" vin #c71215, 1939 "B" Wide front, WD45 nf, WD45 wf, 1941 "C" work in progress. Wd wide front |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2014 at 2:39pm
| could be your pulleys are worn too |
Posted By: cosborn
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2014 at 9:23pm
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How do I tell? ------------- 1949 "C" vin #c71215, 1939 "B" Wide front, WD45 nf, WD45 wf, 1941 "C" work in progress. Wd wide front |
Posted By: 1939Dodge
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2014 at 10:35pm
| Any pictures of the deck? My label is damaged, may be a Sunmastr. Photos of your deck and label may help me identify it. Thanks! |
Posted By: steigerbro24
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2014 at 2:30pm
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Take a look at the spindles and check for too much play. I have a belly mower that kept throwing the belt if I went above half throttle even though I tried tighter springs. One of the spindles had busted a bearing and that gave it way to much side to side play so that may be your problem. Also pics would be nice. ------------- 5 Steigers, 7 John Deeres, 8 Internationals, 4 Case tractors and combines and 1 Oliver ........... Oh wait they're all 1/64.......and a real '44 B |
Posted By: cosborn
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2014 at 9:17pm
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Ill get pics tomorrow. ------------- 1949 "C" vin #c71215, 1939 "B" Wide front, WD45 nf, WD45 wf, 1941 "C" work in progress. Wd wide front |
Posted By: 1939Dodge
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2014 at 5:05am
| Thank you! |
Posted By: Creek Jenkins
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2014 at 8:30am
 Here is my C with the Sunmastr deck. Belt guard removed, front wheels are not Sunmastr, I added them later.Creek |
Posted By: cosborn
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2014 at 1:32pm
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Thanks for posting that pic Creek! Showed me that my crose bar was on wrong. Explains way the pto drive belt was a pain. Here are the pics on mine. http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/cosborn5967/media/bellymoweretc032_zpse9fe0bfa.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/cosborn5967/media/bellymoweretc031_zps68f7d9ea.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  ------------- 1949 "C" vin #c71215, 1939 "B" Wide front, WD45 nf, WD45 wf, 1941 "C" work in progress. Wd wide front |
Posted By: Creek Jenkins
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2014 at 2:02pm
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Keep the spindle bearings grease - mine has a "weep" hole on the side opposite the zerk, I grease them until the ugly stuff stops coming out. If you can find a zerk on the center pulley setup let me know - I can't find one and it seems like that bearing would have a lot of side pull on it. You can still get parts from Artsway in Iowa if you need them. Spendy though. Blades I bought from a mower parts outfit - they are a little hard to find as they have two off center holes, no hole in the center of the blade. I've put a lot of hours on mine, it works pretty dang good. cheers, Creek |
Posted By: joel19
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2014 at 10:34am
| I have a c with sunmaster mower that is missing belts looking for part numbers for belts. I think the deck belt is r 50900 118 double b. The main drive belt a cant tell if it is a v belt or double. Anyone have numbers of these belts model of deck is b 360 ec |
Posted By: drewman1977
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2017 at 9:10am
| I have that exact deck on my 1943 Allis Chalmers B model. Does anybody know where I can get the pulley's for this? |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2017 at 6:31pm
| Do you have the belt routed correctly, and are all the spindles/idlers free turning? |
Posted By: 1939Dodge
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 8:45am
| I have a rusty old SunMastr deck behind the garage. Free to anyone coming to central Pa. Who can use it. |
Posted By: drewman1977
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 9:16am
| My belt is routed correctly but my idler pulley separated. Tractor has been out of commission for almost 2 years because of it. If PA wasn't so far away I would absolutely get it from you. I'm in central TX. |
Posted By: drewman1977
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 9:20am
| If you would cut the idler pulleys off the deck with a torch I would buy them from you if you shipped them. I could send you a check, paypal, etc. You tell me how much you want for your time and labor. I am desperate. Do you have any pictures???? |
Posted By: drewman1977
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 9:23am
| The third picture above is the same deck I have. The closest pulley in that picture that somebody posted is the same idler pulley that separated on mine. |
Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 9:40am
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I don't know what your idler pulley is like, but idler pulleys in general are rather easy to find. This sunbird is back home in Michigan. Dusty ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: mintenfarmer
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 10:32am
| Check surplus center for idler pulleys agco wanted $120 for a pulley I got there for $17 |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 4:08pm
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Creek That is on NICE LOOKING C!! Love those decals. You know, sometime ago I was asked what I thought the nicest looking tractor Allis Chalmers made was. I said the C. I think the lines are really neat. Good Luck! Bill Long
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