Need help locating parts
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Topic: Need help locating parts
Posted By: Restoadict
Subject: Need help locating parts
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2013 at 11:36am
Hello everyone. Im new to the old equipment restorations. I just recieved a HD7 and im trying to find some parts to get it moving again. It runs great and the trans goes through the gears good. The old owner took the steering clutches out of it and lost some parts. Im having a hard time finding anyone with HD7 parts. I ordered the parts manual off ebay this week so I know the right terminology for each part is. Can anyone give me some insight or atleast tell me if im on a sinking ship or not. Thanks 
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2013 at 2:01pm
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Early HD7 with the 3-71 Detroit Diesel Believe there are couple bone yards for construction out your way in Utah - ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Restoadict
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2013 at 2:10pm
| Yes the yard you talk of is just outside of Boise Idaho. He said that he only has HD5s and HD6s :( Im not into this dozer to much as far as cost. Do you think its worth putting back together if I can find parts Coke? |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2013 at 2:21pm
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If there is life left in the undercarriage - being track - sprockets - rollers still have life - then yes . Can try Eau Claire WI - Thill Track and Tractor - see if they have a lead on anything . Unsure of what parts interchange on the old machines of the HD7 era . HD5 and HD6 share many of the same parts from engine back and the running gear, in fact those machines share clutch pack parts with HD11 machines. The 71 series engine parts are the easy part as they are still made and used . HD7 kind of stood by itself. I looked at one back in the 70's but passed and bought a D6-9U Cat - worst investment I ever made - money pit, should have bought the HD7.
------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Restoadict
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2013 at 2:30pm
| Ok thanks Coke. Ill check in on these leeds. I have also heard of a few out in the desert around here in the old mining districts. Im planning on going exploring after huning season ends in Nevada. Dont need to get shot at lol. Im going to take some more detailed pictures so you can see what i have. It is truly a basket case right now. |
Posted By: Restoadict
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2013 at 5:37pm
| Hey Coke I just got off the phone with a guy from fresno tractor and he has two HD7g. Will the parts from them work on my dozer? |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2013 at 6:55pm
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Nope yours was built 1940 to 1950 / HD7G was 61 to 69 then followed by 7G-B
------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Ages Cat
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2013 at 10:28pm
| You might want to consider a parts tractor as well. They are around, parked, many due to a bad engine or simply something the owner did not have the money to fix. |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2013 at 4:51am
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zimmerman tractor in versailles Missouri has Hd7 parts for salvage
http://www.crawlerbulldozer.com/default.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.crawlerbulldozer.com/default.htm ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
Posted By: Restoadict
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2013 at 6:41am
| I have been on the hunt for a parts dozer. There is two abandoned gold mines in the hills around here that my friends have telling about. They say that there is a couple dozers up their. Only problem ther is no road up to the mines. So no real way to get them out whole. But there are a lot of ranches and farms in the area as well. Thank you guys for all of your help. I'm going to call Zimmerman when I get to work this morning too. This weekend I'm going to try and get the dozer in my shop this weekend and ill post some more pictures. |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2013 at 5:00pm
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Seeing post about the K jogged my memory.From the transmission back the HD7 with a 3-71 has more in common with the K than with the newer tractors. The steering clutch from a M may also have parts in common,but I am only guessing. Ray |
Posted By: Restoadict
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2013 at 5:15pm
| Thanks Ray. Have been talking to a guy from Fresno tractor and he is saying the same thing as you. He recommended I buy the parts manual and cross check the numbers with other machines |
Posted By: Restoadict
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2013 at 11:33am
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Here are the ID plates off my dozer if this helps anyone. |
Posted By: Restoadict
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2013 at 11:34am
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Posted By: John NWMo
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2013 at 6:57pm
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Hi, Ray is right that K crawler transmission and clutch parts could serve as replacements so your search might be broadend by searching for a K. If you need a Factory service manual covering HD 7 10 & 14tractors & engines I have a factory one . Good clean manual. $35 00 plus shipping.
John NwMo 816 724 0206
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Posted By: Restoadict
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2013 at 8:09pm
| Sounds good to me John. I ordered one off ebay but the guy was a scamer and i never got it from him so... Does it have part numbers? Also how do I get it from you? Do you have a web site? |
Posted By: everett048
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2013 at 1:49am
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Tractor parts list HD7 clutch parts and books on his site Also i am led to believe that the first 1000 HD7 shared the same track frame and rear end as the K but not 100% on this. http://www.steeringclutch.com" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: John NWMo
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2013 at 7:28am
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Service manual don't have part numbers & I just sold my K parts book so no help there. Phone number listed in previous post & is best way to contact me.
John
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Posted By: Restoadict
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2013 at 11:57am
| Ok thanks again John. I have been finding a buntch of model M but very few K models. Will model M work as well? |
Posted By: Restoadict
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2013 at 12:33pm
Hey guys I found a picture and parts numbers. Will these parts numbers cross over to another machine that may have the part i need? I need one bevel gear #038169
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Posted By: Restoadict
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2013 at 12:35pm
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Oops I ment part# 036580 |
Posted By: everett048
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2013 at 1:58pm
| If you mean n,o 22 on the parts plate according to my parts books M crawlers are the same part n,o steering clutch bands and plates are the same to just more of them. |