8030 two problems
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Topic: 8030 two problems
Posted By: rieg
Subject: 8030 two problems
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2012 at 8:12am
Need some help please, we have two problems with our 8030 first the alternator barring was squealing so I got a reman from AGCO put it on and it wouldn’t charge thought it to be defective so got another one same result. How do you get these one wire alternators to work is there a trick?? FYI the old one worked fine. Problem two engine sounds like it is missing always between 1500 and 1800 rpms but randomly example turning on the ends is the worst it has a flutter to it you can even see it in the exhaust puffing smoke, give it throttle and it stops run it pto speed no problem. We have had it to the dealer and they have checked everything they can think of fuel line suction side and pressure side, timing, fuel filter not sure what else. They thought they had it fixed but still randomly does it, very aggravating the pump was rebuilt in 08. If I put it under more load with the breaks it stops. If I give it more throttle it stops. It sounds like a fluttering really shows up planting corn it will be fine going down the row and then it just starts doing it. Any suggestion on either issue would be great. Thanks in advance; rieg swoh
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rieg
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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2012 at 8:54am
the fluttering was a problem with governor sensitivity on model 100 pumps on AC tractors. There has been some changes to the calibration/assembly specs, as well as some on engine tricks to help. Take rectangular cover off top of governor housing(4 - 1/4" bolts/7/16 socket). on the governor rod there is a 7/16 wrench size hex nut pushing against a coil spring, you can tighten the spring up, increasing the drag on the control rod. May be enough to cure it, may not. Good luck! Ed.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Posted By: StewartMD
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2012 at 12:45pm
Ed, Our 8010 has been doing the same thing. The guy that rebuilt the inj. pump has looked at it 3 times. Always gets running great but then 6-8 months later it is fluttering again. When tightning this hex nut how much.....Should I go a half turn at a time and see if it makes a difference? I also believe I read somewhere to put some of the weaker grade locktite on it to keep it from moving. Does this sound right? THanks.
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8030, 8010, 220, 185, 160, D-17, WD, Unstyled WC, CA, G, 20-35, Gleaner E
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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2012 at 12:50pm
yes, Dr Allis recommends using wicking loctite (290?) to help keep the nut from moving. There is a different set of specs to shim the springs to. I wonder if they used the latest version? All you can do is try a half turn at a time. You can run it with the cover off.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Posted By: rieg
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2012 at 1:29pm
You guys are great I will give this a try. I believe my manual has something about adjusting the governor. Any thoughts on the alternator. I can plant for about three hours and then head for the barn for a fast charge not getting enough done. Thanks so much for the adjustment idea. rieg..
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rieg
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Posted By: StewartMD
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2012 at 6:58am
Thanks Ed, and Thanks rieg for bringing up this post. I have been wanting to ask the question. I will be adjusting ours tomorrow.
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8030, 8010, 220, 185, 160, D-17, WD, Unstyled WC, CA, G, 20-35, Gleaner E
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