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Topic: gonna vent
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Subject: gonna vent
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2018 at 8:08pm
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My dad turns 80 this weekend. im supposed to be on my way to his birthday. I get the call from Florida (my bosses choice for vacation this month) about an emergency at work where a job he pulled us off of has a grand opening this weekend. We pull off the job that he put us on when he pulled us off the job that has the deadline and went over to try to finish. I get a call from the boss that there is water running out of the house on the other job that he pulled us off of. turns out that he scheduled plumbers while I was away and a fitting broke and sprayed water for two days. The home owner came in this afternoon and found their new house and garage wide open and not a sole in sight and the basement flooded. I had tile guys, plumbers and electricians all there and I gave each the temp code to get in. Plumber sent out a new crack head to the job and he was the last one there. I have only asked for one day off this year. That was a Friday in Oct and I didn't get that. I had it planned ever since a year before that when I asked for a Friday off in Oct and didn't get that either. I missed seeing family the Thanks Giving the year before that due to an emergency so we postponed until Christmas the same year. We had a last minute emergency on Christmas eve and I couldn't go. He doesn't miss a family day or holiday. He gets several lavish vacations a year. Other foreman at work get unpaid vacations. I put off our honeymoon due to being too busy. Got my ass chewed for getting married when I did and then again when we started our remodle because he needs me to work weekends. Jenn and I have a trip/late honeymoon planed to Colorado in June. I intend to make that trip and will look at one of the other builders that keep asking me to come work for them and I'm seriously considering going back in business again. I havent been to my dads house since 2008 and haven't seen him at all since 2010. I don't think I'm out of line. According to my taxes I average 60 hrs a week.
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Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2018 at 8:14pm
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Sounds like you need a new boss. You could get a job anywhere with your work ethic! ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2018 at 8:18pm
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One has to decide when ENOUGH is enough - every job is to important for you to not handle right away so another can enjoy their time - and being boss - well to be a good one the customer comes first - then the employees - and yourself last . If not then you are going to be soon the boss of yourself as everyone else will wise up and tell you to stuff it . For you it's past that choice time - that plumber had it right walk out and don't close the door . ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Wayne180d
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2018 at 8:27pm
| Thad, I walked off my job two years ago July 4 and I have not looked back. I am happy with my decision and now I have a great full time job working for my old manager that also got shafted where we worked. It was in fast food and as a manager I know I worked more than 60 hours a week. My mother just passed and my manager made sure I had a full week plus my days off to spend with her in her final hours. There are people out there who care and will appreciate you. Me thinks you are getting SCREWED JMHO |
Posted By: im4racin
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2018 at 8:49pm
| WALK OUT! |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2018 at 9:08pm
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NO......... just learn to say NO... You only work as hard as you want to......... Other foreman at work get unpaid vacations why do you think that is ? Your fault for not TELLING the boss what you need. If you WANT it, it will happen... JUST SAY NO. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2018 at 9:10pm
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Hey Good Buddy,,, I been noticing for the longest bout how you always is workin your tail off to take care of the Boss,,,AND the business. There does come a time or an event that does take precedence over work,,,and Family is right up there,,,,!! I don't like to say it but your Boss appears to take advantage of your work ethics. He KNOWS ole Thad will let whatever go to bail him out. Your Daddy is way up there in years and you wannna make sure if at all possible,,,you go visit him for this birthday seein as how ya'll been apart for so long.. Same way with your new Wife,,,,,,you'll never be able to sleep very comfortably with your job,,,,,but now that Wife,,,nuff said,,,,!!! Good Luck. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2018 at 9:10pm
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You schedule a vacation, YOU TAKE IT.... Its the BOSS problem to get replacements.. Stop thinking they cant get along with out you.. What happens if you drop dead tomorrow ? You think they go out of business ? ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2018 at 9:29pm
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My take would be tell the boss that Saturdays are now double time, Sundays are triple time, and you won't be available Thanksgiving weekend, Christmas, New Years, Memorial Day weekend, July 4th, and Labor Day weekend. Don't bother calling, your phone will be turned off. You'll also be taking time in June for a honey moon. If he really wants you to stay on, he'll work with you. If he won't, call the other guys up that are interested in hiring you. Life is too short to spend every waking hour working for someone else. ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2018 at 9:52pm
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I quit a company I had worked for 23 years after new management showed up and made my life miserable. Went out on my own and never looked back. Best decision I ever made ,making more money than ever. Working just as much but I decide who and when I work for. Like Calvin said with that work ethic you can go work where you want. It is so hard to find good people that actually know what needs to be done. Also the Plumber that sent the crackhead should be taking care of this. ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2018 at 10:29pm
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Thad, I don't have anything else to add what the other fellows have already said... But will emphasize to drop everything and go see dear old dad, at 80, he could be gone tomorrow or 18 years from now... but every moment you can spend with him between now and then will be cherished. Just tell the boss you gotta go and give him the reason, if he axes you, then you will know how much he appreciated you... and you can go and find somebody that will appreciate you. ------------- He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 12:35am
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Family comes first! Your boss will take advantage of you if you let him, when he has to hire 2 or 3 people to do what you have been doing he will appreciate you. Spend all the time you can with your Dad while you can. ------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 2:18am
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Now Thad, if'n my memorty serves me right I think you got an azz chewin from me last year about this and I think the year before that too and it looks like you got a bad case of selector hearing so I'm on my way down thar. An I'm gonna be thar abouts sunrise an If'n I see you walk out that door with yer cell fone and lunch pail tomorrow mornin I'm gonna let you have it. You see I learned a few things when ole Ted took me out to that weed, I mean wood shed a few times so you know this ain't gomma be pretty. Ted? Tell him. ------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: Bob D. (La)
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 3:37am
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Send your Boss a two worded text. I QUIT! ------------- When you find yourself in a hole,PUT DOWN THE SHOVEL!!! |
Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 3:50am
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Yeah. Go to work for the other guys! Damn!!!!!! ------------- sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?" |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 4:25am
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They've ALL said it Thad, but let me recap........ BOSS, STICK IT!!! I'm going to my Dad's 80th Birthday! WITH or WITHOUT YOUR permission. YOU decide.... There will come a time in your life where you will finally decide the I (yes you) are more important than anything any boss can want. Number 1 on your list......FAMILY!!! First is your wife, next are your parents, then your siblings and then finally you. Everything else DOES NOT COUNT!! Life is TOO short to work your butt off for someone else!! It's HIS business. As Coke said, the boss comes last. DROP WHAT YOU'RE DOING and get down to see your dad. You've only got one and there are LOTS of GOOD jobs out there. I'd give BOTH of my (ah hems) if I could have just a few minutes with my dad. He died when I was 33. Now I'm gonna take my new truck and join up with Les and we're BOTH coming to kick somebody's posterior!! Life is shorter than we think...and it's not worth a damn if it's not a happy one. And that's all I've got to say on the matter..........pfffft!! ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 4:34am
| who's taking the beer? |
Posted By: Grayray
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 5:15am
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I would go to him and explain that you cannot continue to work under these conditions. That family comes first and that you need to visit your father and also spend time with your family on holidays (at least one each year). Then let him decide how important your job is to HIM. If this doesn't work, then your next move depends on whether he owns the company or not. If he owns the company, turn in your 2 week notice and move on. At this point he has 2 choices, reconsider his treatment of you, or hire someone else. If he is NOT the owner of the company, then he has a boss that he answers to. Go to his boss and explain things to him and give him the options that you spelled out to your boss. Either they will reconsider how they treat you or yoU move on. In either case, be prepared to back up what you say. Idle threats will only make matters worse. Good luck with whatever you decide to do and remember -- FAMILY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY JOB. YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND A NEW JOB!
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 5:26am
------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
shameless dude wrote:Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 5:33am
| If'n you don't tell the boss to f*** off, ain't no one else going to do it for ya. Darrel |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 6:16am
You haven't met Jennifer yet have you. LOL
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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 6:21am
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No, I have not met Jenifer. She would be who....? Darrel |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 6:25am
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Just so y'all know, I do realize how most of this is my own fault. I go through the same with my crew. I do feel like I treat my crew members well compared to what we get from the big boss. As far as being replaced. I have no specialty training. I'm easier to replace than a spin on oil filter. I wonder if ole Ted is any faster than the gift he sent me a while back?? Im hoping I aint to slow like Les and get took out behind the wood shed. Maybe I'll have some corn squeezins and bbq ready when they gits here and he'll forgits why they made the trip. Oh I guess I better gits the old Ford gassed up and hooked up to the trailer just in case I gots to go retreve them. LOL
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Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 7:11am
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No Thad......gasp.....hack...spit......we ain't even close....gasp.....fart................Ted I told ya............Whatever Shameless says,...........don't let him talk ya into takin ome of his Chebbies........cough....spit........I toldya we'd be pushin it's................. ------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 7:12am
Hahaha...that is the 2 word text I was thinking of. TELL the boss you'll be seeing dear old dad (since 2010?!) on his birthday, and if he don't like it, tough toenails, and if he threatens to fire you on that conversation, say you can't fire me because I QUIT!
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 7:47am
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Up here the adds now running on many TV commercials that pitch consumer goods from windows and doors, plumbing , heating , electrical contractors as well as other home improvement - WELL THEY CHANGED Just about every one of them are including a line or full add they are hiring experienced help for full time positions as well as new hires to train in high paying fields . The construction or anything associated with it has a demand higher than supply of skilled workers . Friend is trying to hire full time / part time truck drivers and not much luck in finding anyone qualified or that can pass a drug test. Same with my son - he has 2 trucks setting as finding drivers has been a problem as well as his main job as crane operator has him working 10 or more hours now a day . Skilled labor is now in demand and wage, compensation for healthcare as well as other things like holiday and vacation are there to negotiate . How big is the demand for skilled labor - Neighbor is a refrigeration fitter (does large cooling / heating systems in commercial buildings) - he retired last summer - for 40 days and was begged to come back a couple days to check out a building system he had worked on - Few days turned into few weeks and now he works 4 days a week and has Monday or Friday off - or does both for a 4 day weekend - his choosing. Take care of your business first - the job second . ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 7:58am
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Hey Thad,,,,this right there is why your Boss man takes advantage of you,,,,, But seriously,,,,Go see your Daddy and tell him "Hello" from me,,,,  "" I do feel like I treat my crew members well compared to what we get from the big boss. As far as being replaced. I have no specialty training. I'm easier to replace than a spin on oil filter,,"" |
Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 9:47am
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Just because you don't have any "specialty" training doesn't mean you can be easily replaced. Very few these days have your work ethic or the ability to take care of a crew and be their leader instead of their supervisor. Sure, you can be replaced but he may have to hire two people just to take your place. The most important thing you can do is spend some time in prayer and ask the Good Lord for His guidance in your job situation. ------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 11:47am
Hubert I fed some praying on this last night. I woke feeling good about life. I won’t be making the trip to Colorado. I will make the trip in June. There is more work around here than there has been in years. We’ll be ok. Just to clarify I believe anyone that thinks they can’t be replaced is fooling only them selves. I meant nothing negative I appreciate all the replies.👍👍👍 |
Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 11:54am
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Sure you can be replaced!!!!By 2 or 3!!! ------------- sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?" |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 12:59pm
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Any home repair, whether it be carpentry, masonry, plumbing, electrical, you name it, that needs taken care of, I have to do myself. There just isn't anybody outside the Omaha area on the Iowa side of the river that will come to your rescue. You quickly become jack of all trades. Only for a major renovation involving thousands of dollars, will a contractor look your way. I've noticed a lot of folks will shy away from home ownership. They would much rather rent. Why? Because maintaining home is a lot like your car. Its a pain in the azz. It's much easier to just write a check every month. (if they feel like it.) I know, I have 3 of those check collector boxes. They figure it will take the majority of their working years to pay for one so why have the headache? Some even write the monthly check for groundskeeping and/or snow removal. They want to work their 8 hours and not a minute more. ------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: TMiller/NC
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2018 at 7:44pm
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One thing that cannot be replaced in any type employment is experience. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2018 at 10:09am
| That is no kidding. Every DECENT employer here is crying the blues trying to collect decent employees and cannot get them. I have gotten to that age I do not want to or am capable to work like was thirty anymore, time to look to really retiring from all but my own stuff. Been tried to be recruited by five people so far but still say NO as they ask for Part Time and will undoubtedly end up as Thad's employer calling for LOADS of Extra time. cannot do it. |
Posted By: Kenny L.
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2018 at 4:43pm
| One thing I think is sad is your boss doesn't see his best asset is in the people he has working for him but that seem to be the norm now days. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2018 at 6:17pm
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I quit Stelco(was biggest steel plant in Canada) back in 1986 after I found out the kid 6 years junior was making $5K MORE than me. AMoung other things I could fix the spectrometers, build them,code the NEW PCs and fix teletypes. NOT blowing my horn but I had 6 years of real 'on the job' training. Stress was say 13 outta 10 for a ot of reasons... I have NOT had a paycheck since then and have to admit the STRESS level is at maybe a 0 or 1 most days. don't live high off the hog, drive a nice 1997 F150 and will FINALLY get a pension( the guv one) on May 26th. You best go see your dad ASAP, h-e= dbl toothpicks with the employer, I lost my dad in 85,mom in 86 , HALF my life ago, would give anything to have one more chat with them. ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2018 at 6:26pm
As soon as I recognized the area code, I'da let it go to message, then not get the message till tuesday, on the way to dad's house I'd buy me a new cell phone battery, to have the backstory right. That's if I gave a damn, about the job...
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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2018 at 6:27pm
| Y’all my brother left Thursday night. I didn’t get to go. I know y’all are right and I should have went. I will make the June trip if at all possible. I did finish my deadline on time and getting some work done on our house this weekend. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2018 at 8:38pm
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June is a long way off Thad............ tell them your leaving April 2.. THEN DO IT ! ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2018 at 9:28pm
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Thad, there are several businesses around here that are going INTO the high schools and BEGGING kids to come to work and forgo college. They will train them for what ever and if at a latter time want to go back to college, the company will help with the tuition. What good is a BA or an MD when you work for McDonald's..... The PROBLEM with today's kids is THEY DO NOT WANT TO WORK. Heck, they can continue to live off Mom & Dad. You have a skill that cannot be matched!! Others have said it and pointed it out......in todays world, it means more than anything. EXPERIENCE. And as a leader of a crew, you have more than enough to go to work for anyone. This much I'd bet the family jewels on! ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |