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Topic: of color wheel horse ?

Posted By: tractorman
Subject: of color wheel horse ?
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 9:20am

i am looking at a wheel horse small tractor don't know model # but bought in mid to late 60's has deck, snow plow and maybe dirt plow , don't know yet if it runs but it is complete knowing the owner it was well cared for, in shed dusty cob webby ( not haunted i hope ) now.

Any ball park ideas for pricing ?

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Play on 38 B 49 WF , working on D14, D15 B10, Bee 12 B110. use 185 and 190

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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 11:37am

Miller'z rule.... non running= scrap+10% up to say $500 depending on implements and condition.

The HUGE problem with 'nonrunner' is 1) condition of engine, 2) can't check out hydro or tranny, 3) can't check mower deck 4) brakes ???

You could easily drop $1000 into either restoring or replacing the engine( plus a LOT of your time) only to find out, arrgh, the hydro is shot...ka-ching ,another 1000 to fix that...then what...rotted deck, spindles gone, needs a $140 belt..., etc.

Sorry, but I've been bit a couple times in the past, so I'm 'cautious' about ANY colour 'non runner'

You, and only you, know how deep your pockets are and how badly you 'just have to have it'.

Jay

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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water

Posted By: dawntreader74
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 5:45pm

around $150-200 tops' had a lot of them' there hard to sell' you can put more in one then it's worth?

Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 7:01pm

Late 60's is bad news for those mower decks. If 1 belt goes from engine shaft to another with 2 belts and a gearbox on each end take a very long look at the gears inside the boxes. That deck will have 2 blades and discharge out the back. If its one of them you don't want anything to do with it if your planning to mow. I've been looking for a set of those gears since the 70's, and nobody makes em. Good tractor, deck sucks. Mines an 857 if that helps any. That series first number is hp, last number is year made.

Posted By: GlenPettit
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2017 at 8:55am

Can you post some photos of that tractor?

Really hard to say without seeing it (and hearing it); if it's just missing 1-2 parts it can make a big difference in price.

Wheel Horses that are 1970's and after are very interchangeable in their parts, the parts were very standard in the way they attached so a '73 shares a lot of parts with a '89 or '07, and even different models shared a lot; but during the 60's, the parts for each year seemed very unique, like WH was testing out ideas (and some parts are hard to locate).

Walker is correct on the model number system used in the 60's to help date it; also, if it has a Kohler engine, that label would tell you when the engine was made (usually made about 2 months prior to the tractor), check Kohler site for their ID system, very nice. (the middle number is usually the gearing or staring system, i.e.. 953 is 1963 9hp, 1054 is '64 10hp, both 5 = electric start, 0 manual, 6 was six speed, etc.).

IMO, as-is, if the tractor looks nice, then $100-200 would be in the selling price range, with the implements.

Michigan Glen (with 12 Wheel Horses)

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Glen

Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2017 at 9:31pm

my first tractor of my own is a wheel horse 855 i restored it and used it for many years untill i got my 101 but i keep it ready to go work if the 101 goes down .it also has a cat0 three point hitch for impliments