Over Budget Allis 440 Project
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Topic: Over Budget Allis 440 Project
Posted By: badjeep
Subject: Over Budget Allis 440 Project
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 3:41pm
I bought this tractor about 3 years ago for a winter project, well it turned into a two year project. It is about done except for getting new outer duals put on, the inners are new. I took pics all along the way and plan to put a build thread on here some time. Here is a few pics to show it off in the mean time.
------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
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Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 3:42pm
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------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 3:45pm
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------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 3:46pm
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------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 3:48pm
------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 3:48pm
------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 3:49pm
------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 3:57pm
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------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 3:57pm
------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 4:00pm
------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: Brian F(IL)
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 4:08pm
I like it!!!
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Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 4:16pm
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very nice!!
------------- Just cause it's orange don't make it a tractor, there's only one..Allis Chalmers |
Posted By: rrhead(SD)
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 4:17pm
Very nice!!!!!! ------------- 2 WDs,WD45,D-14,D-17,D-19D,180,7020,6080FWA,6080 2wd, 6080 2wd(cab),8050FWA,8550,4W-305,Massey 8250. Gleaner L3, R62 &R65 Agco-Allis 1616H & 1920H, AC 720, Terra-Tiger |
Posted By: cwhit
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 4:21pm
| WOW. ! ! |
Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 4:25pm
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EXCELLENT!!! Like the LEDs too Just mount some more on the sides of the roof for 360 lighting... ------------- He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 5:17pm
| Looks good! |
Posted By: JimWenigOH
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 6:15pm
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Very impressive. Thank you for sharing the photos with us. Is the engine stock, and do you plan to put her to work? I like the upgrades you made like lights, tinted glass and twin stacks.
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Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 6:42pm
| Yea wow that's really nice |
Posted By: Stan R
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 7:03pm
| I want it. Not sure what I would do with it other than pull a 7' rake, but I want it! How much, delivered to MA?????? |
Posted By: Beirnesy
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 8:49pm
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very nice, thanks for sharing ------------- 1969 220,1967 190DXT,1968 190DXT, LGT's 710,,716 |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 8:54pm
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Looking good! Fixer uppers always go over budget, but the satisfaction from your hard work more than makes up for it!
------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: CALEBnOK
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 9:51pm
| I think they look way better with 38's. Very nice! |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 9:51pm
| SWEET! that's better than brand new! awesum job! i'd hate to go out and gits it dirty! |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 10:01pm
| I think that is the coolest looking 440 that I've ever seen. Darrel |
Posted By: chad shafer
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2017 at 10:14pm
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You did a Great job on this. Would love to see a Video of it working under load |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 12:49am
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Great job! As already posted, it seems all restorations done right are over budget! Did yo get parts from Schmidt and Sons in Mt Hope? Interesting place to visit. ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 3:04am
| Best I've seen! |
Posted By: 210Postin
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 4:55am
| Very nice job have never done one on budget yet. |
Posted By: John D
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 7:46am
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That is really cool! Great job! ------------- 1964 D17 series 3 |
Posted By: 7060
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 8:23am
| That's a great looking 440. I hope mine turns out that good. I like the LED's too. |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 8:38am
pic of the new dash
------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 8:41am
Hydraulic controls are now a bit more ergonomically friendly than the originals
------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 8:51am
New Grammer Air Seat
------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 9:16am
Engine is original, and yes this tractor is going to earn its keep ------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
JimWenigOH wrote:Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 9:21am
Living 5 miles from Schmidts is very handy when almost my entire fleet consists of well used Allis equipment, it is unbelievable what they have in stock for vintage Allis equipment ------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 9:30am
Here is one from when I started tearing it apart
------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 2:02pm
| WOW beautiful, great job. Don't scratch hope the tree limbs are trimmed back. |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 7:52pm
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Glad to see a 440 restored, you dont see many done. Kudos for doing one and wow does it look great! Would love to see her work. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 8:02pm
| Were you able to source many factory parts from dealers or strictly aftermarket? It does look awesome and probably sounds just as sweet. Thanks for sharing |
Posted By: Tim NH
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 8:04pm
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Wow, very impressive. You nailed that interior too. The dash must have taken a long time to make, it sure looks nice. Where did you get the rocker switches. Tim ------------- 1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207 |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 8:09pm
| Well, bad jeep. I just seen a nice original 440 on craigslist for $19,500. With that figure in mind, I seriously doubt that you went over budget. That interior is like "over the top" cool! !!!!Darrel |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 8:12pm
| Will you fill-in the hole in the hood ? |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 9:27pm
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Sharp!! How did you do the hydraulics?? ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 9:30pm
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Great looking job! Very nice! ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
Posted By: Dkienzle
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 9:48pm
| That is sweet. Very nice job. |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 9:50pm
| Have to jump on the band wagon with Victory Allis and ask about the hydraulics. Where did you get the orange part of the handle with the switches, and such. ..? And are they strictly electric hydraulics, or do you have to activate one of the switches, and then move the lever. It looks good. May be a system I could use to run the loader on my XT. Thanks, Darrel |
Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 10:10pm
| Just a guess but the hole in the hood for the radiator? When you see the pictures from the first day thats a really nice tractor THEN when you see the pictures from day two WOW!! |
Posted By: KY poorboy
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 10:33pm
| You did a great job!! There is a lot of hard work right there!! |
Posted By: JPG AUSTRALIA
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 11:05pm
| Absolutely awesome! Great job and gives me and others the inspiration for our projects ,credit to you.I wouldnt worry about going over budget, im sure for the money youve spent on it youd would only get a second hand boring late model tractor thats flogged out. |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 8:13am
Hydraulics are electric now, the orange handle is actually a Gleaner combine hydro lever. Here is a pic of the hydraulics before I got the cover built.  ------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: dpower
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 8:33am
| You did a great job on that restoration you should be very proud. I went to Schmidt and Sons a few years ago and bought a NOS grill for a 175 and also bought some 8000 series parts no one had any of as well. |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 8:36am
This is the behind the seat junction for all the hydraulic and seat controls, the digital display is the hydraulic fans controller
------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 8:40am
Not a great pic, but his the overhead now
------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 8:43am
Overhead control and power outlets
------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 9:34am
| Holly crap that's above and beyond for a restoration. Nice work |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 10:17am
| Wow!!!!!! The more I see and hear about that tractor, the more awesome it gets. That is something you can be right proud of, and don't worry for a minute about being over budget, because I am sure you don't plan on selling it anyhow. And take this as a warning if I ever get into your neck of the woods, I am stopping in for a first hand look at it. Thanks for sharing all of them beautiful pictures of your work with us. Darrel |
Posted By: Play Farmer
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 10:31am
| Add me to the "I want it!" list. I also have no idea what I'd do with it, well...other than have some awesome fun with it. 15 acres of food plots, yeah, I could use it. :) |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 11:05am
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Nothing that good looking could be over budget .U where just unsure of what it would cost to do. Nice job. ------------- He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 11:10am
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Probably the best 440 ever way more than a rattle can rebuild. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: iowaman
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 11:50am
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Where are the batteries? ------------- You only live once. But if you live right once is enough. |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 11:55am
No I dont plan on ever selling it, I plan on putting to to work for many years. If you are ever in the middle of boondocks Kansas you are more than welcome to stop by ------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 11:57am
I built a new battery tray under the cab, they are way easier to get to now ------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: JCFarms
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 12:02pm
| That is so nice!! I would love to do this to mine! |
Posted By: JCFarms
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 12:03pm
| The electric hyd is awesome! |
Posted By: combinechris
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2017 at 6:41pm
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looks good badjeep!!!!!! ------------- 35 combines and 15 forage harvesters. mostly allis combines and equipment.WTB 2 row cornhead for a 90 |
Posted By: tractorman
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2017 at 6:44pm
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toy of all toys you sure would only play with it. He wins who enjoys them the most ------------- Play on 38 B 49 WF , working on D14, D15 B10, Bee 12 B110. use 185 and 190 |
Posted By: HARVESTMOONPULLER
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2017 at 8:41pm
| Amazing beautiful job. That's surely something to be proud of. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2017 at 6:24am
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sooooweeet!!!
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Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2017 at 8:22am
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I must say that you have done an exceptional job. The way you made the old and the new come together is great. If I didn't know any better I would believe it rolled off the line like that. What great work you have done.
------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: ACJake
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2017 at 9:59am
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Super nice lookin 440. Nice job!!!!!!!! ------------- 3 WC's, 2 WD's, 3 WD-5's, D-14 w/HenryBackhoe, D-17, 4 D-19's, 185, 190XTsIII, 200, 210, 7010, 10 L&G Allis's. Nunn Better Farms Bleed Orange!!!!! |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2017 at 11:20am
| I don't know how many times now, I've went back into this thread and just marveled at the workmanship that went into this project. It is the absolute perfect balance of old meets new. What a fine job you've done of keeping old iron in service in a modern way. I may pirate the gleaner hydro handle idea from you for a project or two of my own. Did you order it out of agco parts, or find it in a salvage yard. ...? If you ordered it new, could you clue me in on the cost and part number. ...? Thanks, Darrel |
Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2017 at 1:39pm
| Looks just amazing. Can't imagine all the work, thought, and planning that went into it. |
Posted By: joe
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2017 at 9:52pm
| Been watching this post from the get go. Beautiful work on this. Looks absolutely immaculate. Did you do anything as far a isolating the cab? |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2017 at 3:28pm
Entire inside of cab was Dynomatted before I started fitting interior pieces, floor got two layers of Dynomat ------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: 210Postin
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2017 at 4:28pm
| Looked at this post a few times thought i was the only guy that made things there own .And who cares what anyone else thinks very nice job i think we would get along good, love to see people that love the Allis tractors as much as i do great job. |
Posted By: cpg
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2017 at 7:29am
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Since it is going to be put to work I would say price a new articulated 4x4 to replace it and suddenly you are probably not even close to being over budget, and a new one wouldn't be nearly as cool. |
Posted By: macvette
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2017 at 9:09am
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Wow! The original engineers/designers of this AC 440 are looking down at what you have done, and saying "Why didn't we think of that?" - 'course the well thought out upgrades you have done probably weren't even thought of when this unit was originally designed! You have created a beautiful, usable, modern articulated 4x4 that is the envy of any AC enthusiast, plus it undoubtedly will outlast any modern plastic 4x4. Fantastic job! |
Posted By: LB0442
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2017 at 11:02am
| Excellent work!!! Thank you for posting. |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2017 at 5:22pm
Couple of action pics with the cultivator ------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2017 at 5:23pm
------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: Mosin9130
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2017 at 6:42pm
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I don't know how I've missed this thread up to now but all I can say is WOW!...I mean just WOW, WOW, WOW!!! ------------- '56 WD 45...'63 D15 II...'66 D17 IV |
Posted By: 210Postin
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2017 at 7:28pm
| Very nice looks like you need rain |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2017 at 8:59pm
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Super restoration! It is sharp. And, I also love the modern additions. I can't remember, but I'm thinking these were non-turbo?? Did you add any turbos to the triple nickle cummins? I got to see a great shape, tall rubber 38" or 42" dualled AC 440 sell at a farm auction a few years back. It brought around $10,000. Yours is awesome! |
Posted By: Transaxial
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2017 at 9:34pm
| Really exceptional work on both the restoration and all the very nice and functional mods you have done!! You can be very proud of "the tractor you built"! That brings back good memories seeing a 440 in the field. My cousin was a co owner of the Allis dealership in Swift Current SK. back in the 70s and I remember a few of these that he sold. They were a pretty spectacular pulling machine back in their day, and you have just given yours a new life to do it all over again.I am just in the process of doing an 8550 that I have owned since 1986. I repowered it with an 855 Cummins back in 1989 and am quite attached to the old girl. I know how much work and endless time it takes to do such a meticulous job as what you have done. Be very proud of your work!! |
Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2017 at 6:59am
| well done |
Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2017 at 1:50am
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awesome job, very cool, and I love all the custom touches. :) After harvest, or this winter if you have more time, could we talk you into starting a new thread on what all you did for the hydraulics? I have a 7580 with a few shot remote cables, and dad has quite a few salvage Gleaners, so I was pondering electro-hydraulics on one. :) we wouldnt need pulse width modulation for variable flow, as we are just tillage use, so we dont need to be able to feather it. As far as open and closed center, the old N and early R were closed center, and to my understanding all others were open center, so this may come into play on what to use for a donor... ------------- Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine. If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help. |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2017 at 12:46pm
------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: ajl
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2017 at 10:38pm
| I have not seen this before either but I would like to add that the tractor looks amazing. Nice work. Is it going on an air seeder? The right side hydraulics looks like they are for a cart fan. |
Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2017 at 6:50am
| do you have part #'s/links for the hydraulics? |
Posted By: badjeep
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2017 at 5:18pm
Northern tool part # Model# SWH-G03-C6-D12-10------------- In the shed- 7020,7060, L2 X (2), CII, WD X (2), 200, 210, 611H, 440, Fiat Allis 345B |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2017 at 9:06am
There is a lot of work there that's for sure!! Over budget or not, you've created a lot of art work there buddy. Congrat's on a job that's over, above, and beyond! Well well done!  ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |