TL-10 Torque Converter (no engagement)

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   Howdy, I have a 1956 TL-10 wheel loader, SN 1478.  Does anyone know anything about the torque converter it's equipped with?  I started it for the first time in 3 years and the torque converter wont engage to make it go forwards or backwards at all (and its oil reservoir was filled with oil before I started it).  

My grandpa parked it back then because it only would drive backwards and it probably was run low on hydraulic/transmission oil due to a leak in a hose.  Now the forward/reverse tc lever does nothing at all.  I'm going to pull the inspection plate(s) off of the transmission tomorrow to see if i can see anything, but any help or advice on what to look for before I have to pull the transmission off would be greatly appreciated.

And, just for kicks, if anyone knows where I can get my hands on a TL-10 service manual please let me know.  Or, if any of you have one and would be willing to make some copies of the tc repair and/or overhaul please PM me, I will pay you for the copy fees and shipping.  I know there may be copyright issues, but these dang things are nearly impossible to come across...

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abrown6091 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 13 Dec 2010 Location: Steamboat, CO Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote abrown6091 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: TL-10 Torque Converter (no engagement) Posted: 08 May 2011 at 3:57am
	Howdy, I have a 1956 TL-10 wheel loader, SN 1478. Does anyone know anything about the torque converter it's equipped with? I started it for the first time in 3 years and the torque converter wont engage to make it go forwards or backwards at all (and its oil reservoir was filled with oil before I started it). My grandpa parked it back then because it only would drive backwards and it probably was run low on hydraulic/transmission oil due to a leak in a hose. Now the forward/reverse tc lever does nothing at all. I'm going to pull the inspection plate(s) off of the transmission tomorrow to see if i can see anything, but any help or advice on what to look for before I have to pull the transmission off would be greatly appreciated. And, just for kicks, if anyone knows where I can get my hands on a TL-10 service manual please let me know. Or, if any of you have one and would be willing to make some copies of the tc repair and/or overhaul please PM me, I will pay you for the copy fees and shipping. I know there may be copyright issues, but these dang things are nearly impossible to come across...

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Chris/CT Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niantic, Ct Points: 1939	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chris/CT Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 May 2011 at 8:39pm
	I may have Serv. Book for that trans/torque conv. Do you know what brand/name torque Converter is in the machine? Is is similar to TL20/30?

Coke-in-MN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41209	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coke-in-MN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 2011 at 11:32pm
	Some of these units need to be checked with unit running to find proper fill level as the converter needs to be filled by pump.
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gemdozer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Points: 942	Post Options Post Reply Quote gemdozer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 2011 at 3:34pm
	Dd you check the oil pump bolt on rear housing torque if she is in working condition

abrown6091 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 13 Dec 2010 Location: Steamboat, CO Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote abrown6091 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 May 2011 at 4:55am
	Quick update- A member from here emailed me some pages from the service manual and cleared a bunch of things up. My problem is actually the forward/reverse clutches, not the torque converter. The TL-10 has 1 torque converter in the bell housing, and 2 identical dry clutches inside the transmission that control forward and reverse motion. My problem is that the left hand clutch Floater plate and roller disc assembly is rusted to the drive cup splines. I will take it apart in the next few days and hopefully I'll be good to go...
	1956 TL-10 Wheel Loader S/N 1478 -Runs but always needs work :D

Coke-in-MN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41209	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coke-in-MN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 May 2011 at 10:07pm
	thanks for the followup, least there is someone on here that has a lot of information to pass on on this machine.. lot of experts on many things here that are willing to share .
	Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful."