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DonDittmar 
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 Topic: Flashing the GEN
Posted: 02 Nov 2022 at 6:27am |
OK, So after you pull an old DC generator off or have the battery unhooked for extended periods of time, you have to "flash" the GEN at the VR to get it back charging again. In technical terms, what is actually happening when you do this? Are you providing that initial residual magnetism?
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 02 Nov 2022 at 9:34am |
You buy a regulator that is positive or negative ground... You have to match the generator to the regulator... The generator can charge either way depending on the residual magnetism inside... With the key off, you touch the BAT and GEN or "A" terminals of the regulator to send the BAT signal to the generator.. That sets the magnetism inside so the generator knows which way to charge............... at least thats the way i was taught.
Generators should retain their magnetism when off for some period of time.. If this is a old generator or has set for months, it is a good idea to FLASH or POLARIZE .. normally do this when you get a new regulator or do bench overhaul work.
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DonDittmar
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Posted: 02 Nov 2022 at 10:49am |
Thats kind of what I thought too, but I am in the process of making an educational video and I wanted to be sure before I told someone the wrong information
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Flyer
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Posted: 02 Nov 2022 at 2:02pm |
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A generator that has been used recently will have enough residual magnetism in the armature to initiate voltage output when the generator starts rotating. I think the term is "remanence". A generator that has been off for an extended period (or has never been in service) will no longer have enough magnetism to start the process so it has to be initiated from an external source.
Edited by Flyer - 03 Nov 2022 at 5:49am
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Les Kerf
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Posted: 02 Nov 2022 at 3:35pm |
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Yup. Flashing the generator does two things: it establishes the residual magnetism, and also establishes the polarity of the residual magnetism.
I was just a lad back in the 1960's and I clearly recall my Dad and other adult men voicing their distrust of those newfangled alternators because you could not push-start a dead battery vehicle equipped with an alternator like you could a vehicle that had a generator.
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Posted: 02 Nov 2022 at 4:06pm |
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I remember it by Boy to Girl but never to Female! Now if I could remember key off.
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