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    Posted: 22 Apr 2018 at 4:01pm
Year one for me is winding down. Had a very good time and learned alot. My question is-I have read about people filtering their syrup with milk to get super clear syrup. Has anyone tried it? I read where someone said to mix the milk when cold so you can mix it better and the milk won't cook as fast. I did this on one batch and got the cloudiest syrup ever. Even tried adding some later when it was boiling. Any idea how I messed up?
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I have heard of people doing that  but I haven't tried it I think a maple syrup filter is easier. I new an old guy that told a story about him and his dad buying maple sap from the Indians  they had a big cooker going boiling sap he went and looked in it and they were cooking muskrats in the sap this was in the very early 1900 s so don't know if I would believe every thing you hear. Randy
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I took it and cooked it to just boiling, all kinds of gunk on top. skimmed it off and filtered again through cloth. It is now lighter and alot clearer. I gained alot of respect for you guys that are doing hundreds of gallons! Randy what do you use for a filter? 
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WE use a syrup bag  when we are pouring off works good. I think the way milk is supposed to work when you pour milk into hot sap it curdles and picks up the crud in the syrup I think you do this just before the syrup is done. Randy
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I have never tried milk to clean syrup. Guess I was always concerned about getting the milk and the syrup separated? I would suggest a cone filter and several prefilters. Most syrup equipment will have these.
We have moved from the cone filters to a power filter system to allow more syrup to be filtered quicker. We are small and only make 100 to 150 gallons per season.
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I've never even heard of using milk to filter syrup. I have always used cone filters they work great. i make 75-100 gallons a year.
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Sugarmaker that is what happened. I mixed it into cold sap and it never cleared up. We decided to refilter it and put it on the stove to heat it up. Ooops started to boil. Removed the heat and the junk came to the top. If you guys are small at 100+ gals I am micro. I am going to really look more into filtering next year.
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When it get's good and roiling initially, crack an egg into the kettle/vat/pot and all debris you missed in the original filtering will adhere to the egg as it solidifies (cooks). Scoop it out with a colander and you will be pleasantly surprised at the small particles attached to the egg. Sounds funny, but it works.
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Tim We bring it home and finish in a pot. We then filter it and have it around 180 deg and jar it up. Do you mean to add the egg when it starts to boil when finishing? I for some reason am confused about the time to add the egg. Do you beat the egg first or just put the whole egg in? I had added the milk just before starting the final cooking. 
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If filtered well as added to the vat for initial "boil", bring it up to temp, crack an egg into a bowl to ensure it does not have a broken yoke from cracking it open. Pour/drop the entire egg into the sap while it is "boiling". The movement of the hot sap at that temp will allow the egg white to catch any remaining fine particulate and we used to joke that it looked like a little "afro" as the egg "cooked", trapping the particles. Egg will come out covered in small specs and does not take long to firm up so you can scoop it out in one piece with a colander. It will actually be firmer than a poached egg done in water.
To see how it works for a smaller batch, heat up a canning pot of unfiltered sap on the stove, add the egg and you will see how long it takes to grab any particulate.
Enjoy, and "go thick" as we used to say as nothing worse than runny thin maple. Ruined a few batches when young and left to tend the fire, "but Dad, I only left for a minute".
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Maple syrup: Yes much to learn and continue to learn. I need to get out to the sugarhouse and work on replacing spouts and drop-lines. Only about 1/2 done to be ready for next year.
Filtering is always a challenge.
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Sugarmaker if you were closer I would love to see your setup. (I know Ted J would also) But it was fun to do and will be alittle more informed and prepared next year I hope. Thanks to all that shared their info with me!
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Originally posted by mdm1 mdm1 wrote:

Sugarmaker if you were closer I would love to see your setup. (I know Ted J would also) But it was fun to do and will be alittle more informed and prepared next year I hope. Thanks to all that shared their info with me!

You guys are always welcome! A good source of maple syrup information in another forum www.mapletrader.com
See you there!
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