BOUGHT MY FIRST ALLIS

bought my first allis on saturday. I think its a C but could be a CA, the engine is stuck but most of it is there, just needs work, i cant decide if im going to keep or sell or part out, so if someone wants it or a piece if it just ask.

Also if someone knows the year from the # please let me know

thanks

also i have no idea why someone painted it red...

That looks like it has to be a C, I know its not a CA. Steve

Go orange or Go home!!

The CA also had (most of em anyway) a hand clutch between the differential and the right side final drive, wd style hydraulic pump with traction boost system, yes and 4 forward speeds.

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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF

its in a CL ad for $350, you think thats a good price? someone told me it was worth that in scrap. What does it weigh?

Round numbers 2000lbs

I'll bet it looks worse than it is. No rear wheels and the front rims bad makes it really look bad. From what I can see, the tin really isn't all that that bad. Pull the radiator and drop by the local sandblaster. Prime and tear into it.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford

It isn't painted red- that's the patina that the original orange paint fades to after about 50 years of weather... somewhere between purple, pink, and red.

Biggest problems I see offhand... lack of wheels makes it hard to move around (I like to make 'em roll first, and use other tractors to move 'em round the shop), but lack of exhaust says it may have been left uncovered in the weather. One fender missing, but otherwise looks like the sheetmetal is all fairly good... not dented up. There's a boot on the shift lever, and the filler looks well-oiled and undisturbed, so I'm thinkin' the transmission probably doesn't have much water in it...

At that price, I'd agree with Brian- Get some rolling wheels under it, take a pressure washer to it, blast off the crud, dry it out, and get to work. If the motor is stuck, but the rest is spinning, find a running motor to slap in so you can get it operational, then blast and paint it... and put the stuck motor in an engine-stand for winter project.

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tmiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 11 Oct 2010 Location: Waynesburg PA Points: 82	Post Options Post Reply Quote tmiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: BOUGHT MY FIRST ALLIS Posted: 17 May 2011 at 7:45pm
	bought my first allis on saturday. I think its a C but could be a CA, the engine is stuck but most of it is there, just needs work, i cant decide if im going to keep or sell or part out, so if someone wants it or a piece if it just ask. Also if someone knows the year from the # please let me know thanks also i have no idea why someone painted it red...

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Tedin NE-OH Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 30 Mar 2011 Location: OH Points: 177	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tedin NE-OH Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 2011 at 7:50pm
	Based on the looks of the rear wheels it looks like a C. Quick way to tell, a C is 3 speed tranny whereas a CA is 4 speed tranny. Serial no. is at base of gear shift lever. With that we can tell you what year.

allis restorer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 05 Dec 2010 Location: Rib Lake, WI Points: 184	Post Options Post Reply Quote allis restorer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 2011 at 7:50pm
	That looks like it has to be a C, I know its not a CA. Steve
	Go orange or Go home!!

CTuckerNWIL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22816	Post Options Post Reply Quote CTuckerNWIL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 2011 at 7:51pm
	It's a C. CA had a platform under the seat, monroe style seat, power shift rear wheels and a straight drawbar hung from the lift arms for the pin hitch and hung from a yolk for the Snap Couple set up. You can also look at the tractor number stamped next to the shifter. It will start with the model and read Cxxxxxx. That is your serial number.
	http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF

CTuckerNWIL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22816	Post Options Post Reply Quote CTuckerNWIL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 2011 at 7:55pm
	The CA also had (most of em anyway) a hand clutch between the differential and the right side final drive, wd style hydraulic pump with traction boost system, yes and 4 forward speeds.
	http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF

wkpoor Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 25 Apr 2010 Location: Amanda, OH Points: 825	Post Options Post Reply Quote wkpoor Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 2011 at 9:29pm
	Your missing some key parts there hehehhe. Wasn't that one here just a day or 2 back being pointed out for a CL ad.

tmiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 11 Oct 2010 Location: Waynesburg PA Points: 82	Post Options Post Reply Quote tmiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 2011 at 9:33pm
	its in a CL ad for $350, you think thats a good price? someone told me it was worth that in scrap. What does it weigh?

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	Round numbers 2000lbs

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	That looks like it would be a nice fixer upper. Make a person feel pretty good when you can save one from the melt pot and make it a running usable tractor again. I would say buy it,fix it, and enjoy it.

Brian Jasper co. Ia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prairie City Ia Points: 10508	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian Jasper co. Ia Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 2011 at 10:53pm
	I'll bet it looks worse than it is. No rear wheels and the front rims bad makes it really look bad. From what I can see, the tin really isn't all that that bad. Pull the radiator and drop by the local sandblaster. Prime and tear into it.
	"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford

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	Congradulations on your first AC. I just bought a c with a big hole in the block but i have another engine. most tractor finds this old need wheels and tires. I see tractors being parted out on Ebay all the time you could probably find some of what you need there. You are up there near B Equipment they should be able to help you with parts but if they can't we are only about 40 mile southeast of you.
	The universal answer to all questions is yes, how much do you want to spend?

DaveKamp Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5651	Post Options Post Reply Quote DaveKamp Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 2011 at 9:19am
	It isn't painted red- that's the patina that the original orange paint fades to after about 50 years of weather... somewhere between purple, pink, and red. Biggest problems I see offhand... lack of wheels makes it hard to move around (I like to make 'em roll first, and use other tractors to move 'em round the shop), but lack of exhaust says it may have been left uncovered in the weather. One fender missing, but otherwise looks like the sheetmetal is all fairly good... not dented up. There's a boot on the shift lever, and the filler looks well-oiled and undisturbed, so I'm thinkin' the transmission probably doesn't have much water in it... At that price, I'd agree with Brian- Get some rolling wheels under it, take a pressure washer to it, blast off the crud, dry it out, and get to work. If the motor is stuck, but the rest is spinning, find a running motor to slap in so you can get it operational, then blast and paint it... and put the stuck motor in an engine-stand for winter project.