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    Posted: 08 Feb 2013 at 7:19pm
Yup Benton harbor. You probably pull with clintonia. So , do i know you?
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Honestly i have not bought it yet im to get it tommorow i was told that it is to use stock rods i dont now for sure i do have a allis 45 crank i want to stroke but i want to use a allis 201 block i want to use this for dead weight pulling any help is appreciated do u live by benton harbor
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What I should have said was" did you get the crank done yourself or did you pick it up somewhere?". Is it set up for an Allis rod? I've done a few of these and been into alot of mm strokers. I frequently visit my tractor pulling buddies in the Lansing area. My # is 269 921 four six 8 six. You are welcome to call anytime and I can walk you through assembly etc. Andrew
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Im am around the lansing area
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Acticcat...Where in MI are you?
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Cat. You are missing my point
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here ya go
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Originally posted by unstylish_ unstylish_ wrote:

Arctic cat how is it you ended up with a 5" crank but no idea how to install it or rod the crank was set up for?


I got a drivers license, three tires an engine but the rest of the car is missing... How do I get to Tennessee to meet the spankster? lol    This should take off like a lead balloon.  
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Took it to the machine shop and they did the rest
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Arctic cat how is it you ended up with a 5" crank but no idea how to install it or rod the crank was set up for?
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Originally posted by arcticcat arcticcat wrote:

Can someone help me i have a 201 block and a wd45 crank stroke to 5 inches i would like to know what i need to do to make this work what rods to use how much grinding has got to be done or who do i contact


Best to start a new topic. It might get as long winded as this one fore long Confused
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How can i contact you
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Can someone help me i have a 201 block and a wd45 crank stroke to 5 inches i would like to know what i need to do to make this work what rods to use how much grinding has got to be done or who do i contact
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Absolutly. Pulls need all the hook numbers they can get. That's how it works spankster, you want to pull, you show up.

You can't win if you don't show up. So when will you get out of the peanut gallery with the other drunkin rednecks and pull?

Perhaps you should take up stamp collecting pankster. Emotionally it's much easier on the human psychie. Your feelings wouldn't get hurt so badly and you already have the necessary equipment to for the hobby. As long as you don't run with scisors and you won't have much to worry about.
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Rod anytime you want to pull just show up.
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Originally posted by mlpankey mlpankey wrote:

rod still waiting to see a over 400 cubic inch allis 226 running from you or wi



Are you stupid. or somethin? You want some lessons? You bought a 310 and killed it makeing it non competitive in the process. You built your own and wrecked it even faster. Anytime you want to go pulling let all of us know. Perhaps even Hudsonator will get back into pulling and kick you around like in the good old days. Or if you perfer to travel, go anywhere in the country for a butt kickin, be sure to use fake name at registration. Pankey will only cause hilarity to ensue.
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Wi50,
 
Thanks very much, very good info.
 
Good tech all around.
 
I'm gonna have to quit hangin' out over here - ya'll are making me want to pull again!
There isn't much a WC can't do.

WD's just do it better.
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Show up at a pull if you want to see pank. We could use you for jokes.
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Has anyone ever seen anything of yours? Lots of people asking you to put up or shut up. Step up Panks and show them how it is done.
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rod still waiting to see a over 400 cubic inch allis 226 running from you or wi

Edited by mlpankey - 05 Feb 2013 at 12:44pm
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Most people like Marty move on with talent and engineering drive like Marty has . Instead he lets us in on this information in helping pullers advance to the next level or just produce that smile at the next pull . My hat is off and a big thanks for sharing your knowledge Marty .

As for Pankster don't give up . There is hope ? Maybe your boss will buy you a new broom!
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Originally posted by mlpankey mlpankey wrote:

talking about not staying on topicĀ  geees . Got a go guys got a engine to do


You finally learned enough to try again. In all the time you spent entertaining everyone with your stupidity you could have put togather several engines. They let you sweep the floor again this week as long as you keep your mouth shut?
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Originally posted by Ihateillinoisnazis Ihateillinoisnazis wrote:

 
Lol, I'm waiting for the resident Einstein to tell us Marty has it backwards or something.

 

He has already told Marty that you can't round off the corners cause you will break thru the wall. Then I think he tried to explain why you didn't need to round off the cornersConfused
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talking about not staying on topic  geees . Got a go guys got a engine to do
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Originally posted by unstylish_ unstylish_ wrote:

Cool now we have another detailed explanation for Mitch. Not that he'd ever admit to doing it Martys way. But it's ok , you'll know the truth in your heart.



Lol, I'm waiting for the resident Einstein to tell us Marty has it backwards or something.


Spank must be busy assembling that engine with his cast forged rods... Or maybe he's trying to learn high school math so he can tell us how many cubic inches he has.






Either way it's fun to read Marty's posts, always informative.

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Cool now we have another detailed explanation for Mitch. Not that he'd ever admit to doing it Martys way. But it's ok , you'll know the truth in your heart.
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Hudsonator,

On the pulling heads, I cut a 1" hole in top between the head bolt and the valve guide on each side of the intake port on the flat 3" tall heads, or I open up the water ports on the 4" tall heads.  I open up the bottom water port that's right under the intake runner.
Then I blast the inside of the water jacket clean through these holes, grind the casting flash off.  I really need to get the intake valve bowl areas and around the intake runner blasted clean in the water jacket.  Then I take a filler material that's in a thick putty form  and start filling the "corners" of the intake runner to valve bowl.  Kep packing and wedging it through the top and bottom access holes and I fill around the intake runner.
 
Now I can fill my access holes with a 1" frost plug and start porting the inside of the intake runner.  I cut that nasty corner out of the intake where the charge has to turn a sharp 90 degree corner to go into one valve bowl or the other.  I fill around the outside of the intake runner and that valve bowl area because I'm going to cut through the original casting there.  the further into the valve bowl you can lay the port back and the longer the radius you can roll into the intake runner, the better they will flow.  The port gets verry wide because of this and the volume is to large to keep air speed up.  I drill a hole in the back of the intake, thread it and put a bolt in, this gives the filler something additional to anchor to and I build a wedge shape with a long sweeping radius on each side into the valve bowls.  I can keep the port volume correct with this and the divider helps direct flow as well as prevent robbing on intake overlap for that given runner.
 
I cut the intake runners into a long tear drop shape to blend into the corners.   On one of my own for a verry fast running engine, I just cut the intake runners out and used a large sleve as I needed lots of volume to feed verry large valves.  It all depends on the size and speed of the engine.  But with that corner cut out of the head, it's not supriseing to see some verry healthy flow numbers.  I'm able to keep water in all these heads yet. 
 
I've got one 4" tall head dry I did for my outlaw engine with split ports that are raised in it and it peaked out at 318 CFM on the intakes!  I had to countersink allen headed bolts in the bottom of the intake ports and plug the access hole in the top because the original head bolts go through the new ports. 
 
On the more "stock engines" and a lot of the pulling heads for these, I run a 1.8-1.9" intake valve depending on the engine.  I cut the corner back in the head quite a ways but don't cut through.  Roll the floor into a nice short side radius.  Just a nice 3 angle valve job and nothing to special.  I've tested some various valve angles, etc.  Really in the end there's verry little difference.  Once the corner is removed, then there's a difference.
 
Depending on compression ratio and engine size, most of the cams get ground to about the same duration in the mid 190's @ .050" but the lobe seperation angle gets changed depending on the engine it's for.  With a siamesed port and a flat crank, they won't take much duration.
 
Nothing's impossiable but some things take some time and thought. 
 
 


Edited by wi50 - 04 Feb 2013 at 9:41am
"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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Originally posted by wi50 wi50 wrote:

You just have to look Hudsonator, your village idiot and my village idiot managed to bury it in gibberish. 
 
 
That's about the most obviously honest thing that's been said about the "gibberish".  My confidence in your judgement just went up 100%.
I guess every village has its idiots, huh?  Reckon they're gonna plead temporary insanity due to Allis-intoxication?

Edited by Hudsonator - 03 Feb 2013 at 6:12pm
There isn't much a WC can't do.

WD's just do it better.
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