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    Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 10:04pm
I was coming home tonight with a load of straw on the wagon and the WD45's throttle dropped to Idle but the throttle quadrant was still at 3/4 throttle. Now when you move the throttle it does move the linkage to the top of the governor but does not move the cross shaft that is suppose to control the carburetor.  I think a spring broke in the governor, I have a repair manual but wanted some advise before I tear in to this project. How hard is it to replace this spring? 
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4 bolts on small cover on front cover.  MACK
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I got the cover off and the spring, w/plunger is broken. They offer 3 different RPM  selections, 1400 std.,  1600 or 1800, which one is best for the tractor? My tractor is serial# 166300, my Engine Serial# 45-23211G 

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Hope that's all it is for you Dan.  Are you going to replace it with a spring from a D series tractor?
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Now you lost me, why would you use a D series spring and what number is that spring? I am suppose to give 2 church's rides this weekend, weather permitting, I am trying to find this spring today. Does any one know of a stock spring that may be able to get at an auto parts store?
 


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I think it is the D-17 spring, it gives more RPM's.  That is what I have learned on here.  You said that 'They' offer 3 springs.  Who is They?  Where did you find the info?
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Those rpm choices came from my parts manual for my WD45, I am trying to scan and load those pages.

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According to the book, General Specs state the RPM (Governed) 1400, RPM (High Idle) 1677-1722.  Don't know if this helps you or not?  Are you far from Lacon?  Doc's Equipment.  He just might have such an animal.  He has used and new parts. Phone: 309-246-2900
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Here is the information, the part is #19, Ted thanks for the information, looks like I will be chasing my tail on this one today.


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I put the 1800 in mine and don't like it. the tractor runs to fast for my comfort. I had a 1400 in it but it didn't respond well the 1400 was streched out of shape. so I'll need to order another one. till it gets here I just don't run the throttle all the way up. you can change it without even taking the hood of. its alittle tight but you can get it on with a neddle nose vicegrips. I've never seen a hardware store with a spring that would work. Agco here had the 1800 instock when I needed one.
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Does any forum member near plainfield, Illinois have a new or used one governor spring for a WD45, if you want to sell it please call me at 708-275-6820 if you can help me out.
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I would like to thank Larry one of the forum members who had a spring and is lending to me until the one comes from the dealer later this week. Also to Al's brother Lane who called me on the way to see  Larry to offer what he had if it didn't work out too. What a great group of people I have met being on this forum.
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Danny, you just need to move down here; I have a trailer full of WD/WD45 parts.
Let me know if you don't get one and I'll ship one to you.
3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.

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I had the roll pin come out or break(can't remember) of #17 lever and idle was all I had.Took a little effort to figure it out. Fixed it out in the middle of the field buy removing front cover.
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They sure don't give you much room as you know to work between the radiator and that cover. I got home that night by using a bungee cord on the carburetor linkage and adjusting the tension so it was just above idle.
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I own a big thanks to Don Bradley also whose fore thought on Saturday morning to post the SOS for the part I needed. He too as all the other members has been their for me from day one on my WD45 guiding me through the tractor repairs. Don you  personally have gave  me encouragement when I thought I wouldn't cross the finish line on a repair. Thanks again to all the forum members I have had the great pleasure to know. Here is a list of repairs I have now done on my WD45.

1954 Allis Chalmers WD 45

Tractor Serial #166300 /  Engine Serial# 45-23211G

Oil Filter #FIL 7011 / Headlight #LMP 1143 or  #4411     / Rear Light #LMP 4419

Fan Belt #NBH 2522461 /  Battery #Bat 6070 /  Spark Plug # Autolite 85  / Muffler #21309

Delco Remy Distributor# 1111745 / Distributor Cap #RR145  Rotor #RR301  Points #CS763A   Condenser #RR174

3-20-2009         Battery Installed

3-20-2009         New Alternator and Upper Bracket

3-20-2009         New Wiring Harness, Ignition Switch, Ammeter

4-06-2009         New V Belt

4-10-2009         New Lower Radiator Hose

4-18-2009          Grease, Oil (10W30) and Filter                    

4-19-2009          Changed Hydraulic Oil

4-19-2009         Changed Hydraulic Cylinders (Trip Bucket)

5-25-2009         Tractor Seat Cushion

6-16-2009         Muffler

7-07-2009         New Brake Return (Left and Right Side)

New Brake Springs (Left and Right Side)

New Tie Rod End Boots (X4)

                          New Throttle Return Spring

                          New Gear Shift Knob

                          New Throttle/PTO Knobs

                          New Rubber Gear Shift Boot

2-10-2010         Repacked Hydraulic Cylinders (Trip Bucket)

8-08-2010         New Clutch, Pressure Plate, Flywheel, Pilot and Throw Out Bearings and Yoke, Front and Rear Engine Seals, Pan, Valve, Oil Pump and Thermostat Gaskets, Radiator, Hoses, Thermostat (180), Radiator Cap.

8-09-2010         Grease, Oil (10w30) and Filter   

8-14-2010         New Bearings and New Seal Kit in Front End Hubs

1-20-2011         New front tires and rims

7-17-2011         Installed 4 - Autolite 85 Spark Plugs

10-22-2011       New set of spark plug wires

6-02-2012         Grease, Oil (10W30) and Filter

7-15-2012         Complete Brake Job

7-29-2012         Installed new 12 volt ignition coil

7-30-2012         Installed new cap and rotor

8-8/9-2012        Changed oil, new gaskets in rear final drives

8-10-2012         Installed new points and condenser   

10-13-2012       Installed governor spring #70220702

I guess the wife is right, I do spend a lot of time with that tractor.  lol  As you can see this is a word document that I keep adding on to so I can remember when repairs were performed.

 

 



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