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    Posted: 05 Mar 2012 at 8:23am

I have a 1956 Allis Chalmers WD45. does anyone know if you need a regulator and solenoid for a 12 volt system? When i got my tractor it did not run, and the wiring was converted from 6 to 12 volt, and it did not have either of them.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CTuckerNWIL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2012 at 8:32am
You don't need a regulator if you have an internal regulated alternator. You don't need a solenoid if you use the original starter and pull switch.
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Thanks for your help.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CTuckerNWIL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2012 at 10:19am
Looks like you have the start of a nice snow plow rig or a light dozer there. Might need to store the hand crank though.Smile
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Yep, thats a plow frame on it. The hand crank has been removed. that pic is when i got it so the hand crank is rusted on. I removed it by spraying on a little pb-blaster.
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I converted my 56 WD45 to 12volt using a generator (working one was FREE) and bought a D17 voltage regulator.  I drilled holes in the front of my battery box and mounted it there.  Works great for me.  Mike
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I have a brand new 6-volt generator i was going to use on it, but you get better cranking in cold weather with 12-volts. going to sell my 6-volt.

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Here's some pics of my 12v conversion.  I went generator instead of alternator not only because of having the generator free but also because the 190 picker is going this tractor and an alternator would stick out and not allow mounting of the left engine side shield.  Mike








1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
1969 180 gas
1965 D17 S-IV gas
1963 D17 S-III gas
1956 WD45 gas NF PS
1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin
303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark G. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2012 at 11:14am

Very nice setup. I might have to try somthing like that because I have a regulator from a D-17. I would only need to get the generator then.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve in NJ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2012 at 9:30pm
Hey Mark G! Are you the same Mark with the Model B over on Sid Taylor Rd?
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I have a remanufactured generator that I got from Value-bilt a while back for my D15, but it was too log to fit in front of the carb. Will work fine on the larger WD engine. I'm in Eastern Pa, near Easton. Bob
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark G. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Mar 2012 at 7:18am

Hey Steve, no Im not the one on sid taylor road(I know were that is though), I live over in stillwater. (wish I had a model B).



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve in NJ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Mar 2012 at 7:47am
Oh okay. Different Mark. Mark over on Sid Taylor is a nice fella. He's bought some parts from us for his B model. Thought maybe he bought a 45'. Orange is addicting!  Approve I have a BIL that lives over on School House Rd. in Stillwater. Also good personal friends with "Stillwater Lou" that owns Old Stillwater Garage. Him and I have been old Pizanno buddies for 40 + years. I'm only 15 minutes from you over in Green Twp if you ever need help, or want to talk AC. Stop over!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark G. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Mar 2012 at 8:03am
Hey Steve, thanks. I was originaly just going to get my wd45 so it ran and I could use it but I changed my mind and am going to restore it completley. So if I'm stuck on sumthin I'll be sure to ask. Thanks again.
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