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Gary in da UP
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EUP of Mi. Points: 1885 |
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wi50, nice build, I appreciate your doing it your way. It is a shame that our resident "keyboard puller/engine builder /performance guru" is so envious that he has nothing useful to add to or real knowledge to share, but simply is here to diss others and waste bandwidth. But that seems to be how he compensates for his own lack of [fill in the blank]. Mitch, siddown and shudupp.
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GBACBFan
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Green Bay WI Points: 2662 |
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Spanks, you have the ego of a mosquito floating down the river on his back with an erection shouting, "Open the drawbridge!"
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mlpankey
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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How long is the flat on the lifter. Stock small blocks that use a dog bone roller lifter design are. 632 long and you don't get much over factory lift before having to change them to a design with more individual verticle movement. Probably not intelligent enough to answers intelligently. Pulling same engine ten years seams like you should have got the natpa build but you didn't kurt hamill did.
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wi50
Orange Level Joined: 24 Sep 2010 Location: weegieland Points: 1010 |
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Well be more carefull pank. My old engine was put togather well over 10 years agoe and it goes strong yet today. The liners are identical dimensions od the ones I made for this engine. You were most likely dreaming of pulling then the same as you are now.
And yes the lifters move verrtical. Enough of the stupid questions. I'd be happy to adress any legitimate ones from anyone with enough intelligance to ask. |
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"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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mlpankey
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mlpankey
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Well that address that can we see the center main .didn't address the lifter though. Please address all or none thanks
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wi50
Orange Level Joined: 24 Sep 2010 Location: weegieland Points: 1010 |
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. The bore is currently at 4.562 or if my stalker had paid attention he would have read that they were from a Deere 6076 and been able to figure out what the ID is to start with.
So there is plenty of room to bore to 4.75+ Edited by wi50 - 25 Jan 2012 at 5:17am |
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"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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Coke-in-MN
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And I thought the political section was the rough place to hang out , now i see there are other sections of disagreement and controversy .. LOL
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mlpankey
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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Assume both paired lifters are in the lifter bore and the reason only one lifter trunion shows is to show the independent vertical movement the pair has .looks like thethe five mains come at a price of small bores also
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Butch(OH)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Lucerne Ohio Points: 3831 |
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Hey WI50,
Just a lil hint to help ya out.
If you was to put the crankshaft where you have the cam blank and move the cam somewhere else it will go together with less hassles
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Charlie (NC)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Coastal NC Points: 942 |
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only problem with this thread is Plankey. Maybe someone can lock him.
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ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, WI Points: 1826 |
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Sorry for the delay, here are WI50's pictures. |
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1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221
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TREVMAN
Orange Level Joined: 04 Jan 2010 Location: Regina,Sask,Can Points: 1635 |
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Someone lock this thread, WOW...Trev.
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mlpankey
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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I give you a A in trick photogr aphy .I think I will lay a 226 block on its side and set 8-71 on top of it and call a two stroke in progress.
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wi50
Orange Level Joined: 24 Sep 2010 Location: weegieland Points: 1010 |
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A couple friends and I are togather on a component alky tractor. My incomplete pictures of a clutch for it are because the pressure plate was not finished last time I was at Atlas Tractor..... but he had a scrap one I could use for dimensional purposes to get the clutch can to block spaceing correct. Wednesday though I'll have the good one. Just in case some idiot can't understand why I would have a 4 disc slipper laying around. Now projects like this Allis engine or the superstock take a lot of time. In the first post I did say it's a work in progress. 99.9% of you realize this, though I do get time on it now and then and have a lot of the parts well under way or completed for the next step in the process. There is an order of operations one must go through in order not to back track to much.
I was on the road today, but I did get to the shop late this afternoon and took some pictures. I'll send them to Chuck in a bit so he can post them. I'll post them on YT mag tractor pulling forum shortly.
Ladies and gentlemen, let someone's drama continue. I'll spend my time on my family, my work and my projects.
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"see what happens when you have no practical experience doing something...... you end up playing with calculators and looking stupid on the internet"
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Brian G. NY
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Well, I don't claim to know much and I don't!
However, someone told me a long time ago........It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are stupid than to open it......and prove it!
Ain't saying any more but I think you get my drift?!
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mlpankey
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Edited by mlpankey - 23 Jan 2012 at 7:52am |
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TREVMAN
Orange Level Joined: 04 Jan 2010 Location: Regina,Sask,Can Points: 1635 |
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You know, I love Allis and Gleaner. Burned into my brain when I was a kid in the 60's. I come on this site everyday cause I like to see what others are doing, to see pics of machines that remind me of the past, and sometimes to get info and parts for the few pieces I have. If I want to listen to bitchin and stupidness, all I have to do is turn off the computer and talk to my wife or boss. What the guy is doing is way beyond me, but I like to look at it, knocking it down or saying stupid things is just small. Like i say to my gal when Ive had enough, You do You, and I'll do me, and everything will work out. Leave the dude be, who cares how many tractor pulls he won or lost, he is doin some cool stuff. Just my humble offering to promote sanity, Trev.
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geb
Silver Level Joined: 29 Sep 2009 Points: 117 |
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I dont't usually get involved if dirty diaper sports, but I feel compelled to so this time. The only thing I know about Plankey is that I offered him some advice once for a firing problem he was having (use a electronic distributor out of a Chevy Chevette with a little machining to solve a lot of problems in a 201/226 block). As far a wi50 goes know absolutely nothing except from what I have read on this forum. I know just a little bit about engine machining but wi50 has put me in awe with his knowledge. It's obvious that he has forgotten more about engine machining than most of us will ever know and that includes you Plankey. Also Plankey, if you would start trying to learn from wi50/s post, as most of us are trying to do, instead of making an ass of yourself by offering suggestions that are antiquated by wi50's level of expertise, you would be much better off. It is easy to see you know a little about engine machine work but you nor I are in the same class as wi50. Set back, enjoy the roses, and learn with an open mind.
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Charlie (NC)
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Fellows, I'm not qualified to talk about WI50's machine work and I haven't been reading this forum much for a couple of years but there are a couple of things I've noticed that have proved out to be truisms and tell me all I need to know about this thread without knowing much about WI50's work.
1) If Dr. Allis is impressed it's nice work. 2) If Plankey opens his big mouth it is to insult or belittle someone else and try to make himself look big and important. Nuf said
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ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, WI Points: 1826 |
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Marty, sent you a PM about the pictures.
It is fun to see this whole thing develop. It's funny how every time WI50 posts something, Pankey has to jump down his throat. There's alot of things you can learn from someone else if you just keep an open mind. I don't think that's the case though.
Wish I lived closer to you Marty, would love to give you a hand on the weekends and learn some knowledge. Back when I used to help some of the local late model drivers, none of them ever built their own engines. We just picked them up from the builder, did the installs, put a carb on, warmed them up, set valve lashes etc. and away we went. Back then our engine builder was up in Appleton, and a damn good builder he was so it was worth the trip. But never got to learn alot when all you did was bolt the engine in the hole.
Keep up the good work and keep us posted and a certain someone's feathers all rustled up!! LOL
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1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221
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D-17_Dave
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Mocksville NC Points: 990 |
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For some on here and on any given topic, the only thing that shows more than jealousy is their stupidity.
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Yea, I can fix that.....
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mlpankey
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Vols country Points: 4580 |
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keyways to locate . dowl pins work for us . still got 9 years left to be out of pulling before making a pull at goto. i think my planet jr could do well there.
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wi50
Orange Level Joined: 24 Sep 2010 Location: weegieland Points: 1010 |
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Well it looks like this thread is getting cluttered up.
Though I did enjoy a good laugh. Almost spit my mountain dew out. Act a fool and people alwayse rember. Why would it matter how Rod B's pulling season went when once again it's a desperate attempt by someone to backpedal. The saga never stops.
I prefer to get my work done. In a matter of an hour and a half yesterday I took an old WD-45 block and cut keyways in alongside the mains. I than machined the side of the main caps with a .002 interference fit so now my mains are keyed into the block and located. Now the machine shop can line bore and I've got a nice stable platform rather than the old shim stack. I was useing up some of the parts I had laying around and had enough stuff to build a cheap and goof proof engine. Bought some cheap pistons from RaceingJunk.com, some rods and crank I had and I've got about a 320 cube engine. I'll recycle the head, manifold and carb that I worked over for my dads engine last winter to go back in a WD45 wide front that I'm restoreing and can compete in the local pulls.
My point is that in a few hours of work, I've got some nice parts made. Time better spent than trying to tell us on public forum what one doesn't know.
I still can't get pictures to go through so when I get my parts back togather enough to snap a few new ones I'll have to put them on the YTmag pulling forum. Edited by wi50 - 22 Jan 2012 at 12:28pm |
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mlpankey
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Rod B
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How did your pulling season go pankey?
I rember reading one of your rants on the yt forum how you putting off projects and useing the money to put your tractor togather. Going to go pull against Wi, make us a video and show everyone how it was done. I know at the Nat. GOTO we were sure laughing about you. Edited by Rod B - 21 Jan 2012 at 8:42pm |
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mlpankey
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Edited by mlpankey - 21 Jan 2012 at 5:36pm |
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BobDinNC
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I'm with Dave on this. It boggles my mind to see what some people can think up and then DO! Keep on posting.
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AaronSEIA
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I'm thinking he's talking about the alky burner he's building. Maybe I'm wrong. Performance mods for a 226 in my world involve M&W pistons. What WI50 is doing is crazy stupid fun to watch.
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Rod B
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I thought someone posted one time that it was impossiable to put roller lifters in one of these. Not the same dolt is quoteing everything in agreement.
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